I don’t honestly know the best way to go about it. The tax system needs re worked. I honestly believe people that make under an annual rate dependent on size of family household shouldn’t have to pay fed or state tax. It’s a question of how many times can the same dollar be taxed. As for investment and even the crypto stage…It has been a way to help some people come out of poverty. Taxation vs investments is questionable, from market manipulation to people like musk holding their value in stocks and not actual income.


The systems rigged by the rich. That’s the privilege in this country. The same families for decades holding political power. (Not a conspiracy theorist)

This post was edited by Landmine on Nov 13 2021 04:06pm

Privilege has multiple levels. It can be race based (White gets hired more than black with the same resume), it can be education based (If your parents have a college education you're far more likely to go to college), and it can be economic based (If your parents are rich you get better schools, better connections, etc. etc.).

So when people say "It's not a race issue, it's an economic issue", they're wrong, becasue it's both, and race is intimiately tied to economics through segregation, red-lining, school zoning, etc. etc.

However, the number one privilege is definitely money. If your parents are worth a billion dollars when you're born, it doesn't really matter what your race is, you will be far better off than anybody else who's parents are worth 10,000 when you're born.



In this country, the United States, we've incentivized investing over working. If you have money you can live comfortably off the returns because of this. As a result, normal people who work for a wage have to work more, and if they haven't had the opportunity to save and invest, they don't get the reward. Rewarding investing over wages results in a harder life for the average person, because once you fall into poverty it's far harder to get out. That's why things are worse now, we've given loopholes and preferential treatment to investors over workers.

I agree with this, I just don’t see it changing. I believe people should be guaranteed a min living wage no matter what the job is. The average wage in the US based off google is $26/hr and anything under $13/hr is poverty. The problem then comes into cost of living. Most states you need to make more than 50k/year to be able to buy a house.(renting is not the answer, too many slum lords taking advantage of people who don’t have any other choice) This brings into argument that everyone should have the minimum income to support cost of living. If we follow that logic minimum wage should be $25/hr, but how in our current economy and path do you follow up with that?


Do we lower taxes on small business owners to allow them to increase wages for their employees? Do we counter inflation? Do we fine or jail people that take advantage of the current market and supply? Would they outlaw the amount of profit a corporation or business makes according to employee wage vs profits.

I don’t think there’s an actual answer. Without regulations and social hands outs or tax breaks I don’t see a way to help one group without hurting the other.

This post was edited by Landmine on Nov 13 2021 04:44pm

Usury and inflation has been the downfall of mankind since its inception. If you don't participate in it you are missing out and basically a retard. However its a slow killer that eats nations from inside out and its worldwide not just usa. Also generational wealth has been around since forever its just easier to preserve it with usury. Some people just amassed great fortunes and have kept doing that while most take it to their graves. Its a result of long term legacy. Poor dumb people want everything now and always jealous when someone has more then them.

This is the basis of majority of lefts decision making. Its not about the money its about long term strategy and they always want to band aid their way out of the shit they don't even know why they have dug themselves into

This post was edited by addone on Nov 13 2021 04:41pm

i “had” money to do that when i started working after undergrad making a starting wage and living in a tiny one bedroom first floor apartment. no it wasnt poor but it was closer to it than say what you’re at. it required not going out every weekend and eating fucking bulk bought meal prepped stuff all the time. oh back then there was no robinhood or commission free trades. you buy its $8 sell its $8 fee. wasnt fun eating those fees trying to make $100 off $100 when 16% got eaten by fees lol

you aren’t insinuating working and middle class people are not affected by 30-year high inflation i hope

This post was edited by excellence on Nov 13 2021 06:21pm

I don't think it's that big of a deal considering we've had much lower inflation since 2010 or so. Our generation has been extremely spoiled in that regard so I guess I try and keep everything in perspective. Sure, it would be better if prices didn't go up as much but they aren't going up enough to the point where it's crippling people like it did to our parents.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi

I'm still a fan of the outdated flat tax idea.. 15%? Would this lead to increased wages? I don't know but might.. This also eliminated or vastly reduces the IRS.
Small business is exempt for 3 years.
I say that because tax bracket used to be set for 3 years of claiming net loss consecutively.. Been awhile since I was self employed.. maybe it has changed.

This post was edited by theCrossbones on Nov 13 2021 06:24pm

A flat tax I believe would work as long as it’s enforced and there’s not loopholes and write offs.

This post was edited by Landmine on Nov 13 2021 06:33pm

Cover it up:

so because we aren’t as fucked as our parents were at one point all is well? the ability for people to weather storms is becoming less and less available. how many people do you know from 25-35 now who literally have no future prospects despite getting an education and working consistently in adulthood? i know quite a few. seems a little off to say we are all spoiled because we’re creating yet another loss generation segment.