In-person "voter fraud" (or voter impersonation) as a systemic issue or one that impacts elections doesn't even remotely raise to the level of a real issue in our elections. Most jurisdictions that incorporate touch-screen voting already have a "paper trail," a log is printed at the end of the night where the results are then compared to each machine. Both figures are then sent to the local board of elections for processing.

You can actually all but eliminate the few but still over-hyped concerns re: the integrity of elections by simple modernizing of the process. It doesn't take these voter suppression omnibus bills that Republican-controlled states rush to implement after they gain new control. They're only passing those bills to keep Democratic-leaning constituencies from voting, not to prevent "voter fraud."

What kind of bills are being considered? Voter ID's or something more?

Varies state to state. Republicans pass what are commonly called "voter suppression omnibus" bills that contain a large number of provisions designed to make voting harder for non-white people, and constituencies that tend to vote Democratic. Voter ID is one component, usually a mandated requirement that voters must show a certain form of ID that affluent white people tend to already possess, while other forms of ID may not be valid (usually those that would be used by students, or poor people).

Other popular provisions in these bills include: cutting days/hours of Early Voting, eliminating EV on the Sunday before Election Day (because African-Americans have a high usage of that day), eliminating same-day voter reg., eliminating out-of-precinct voting, eliminating straight-ticket voting (in order to make it take longer minorities in cities to vote so that fewer votes can be cast in those precincts), reducing the number of polling places in cities, moving polling places farther away from cities and towards affluent areas, drawing new precincts that force African-Americans to travel farther to polling stations to vote.

North Carolina passed what is considered to be the mother of all voter suppression omnibus bills, and fortunately it was thrown out by the 4th CCA. http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/07/circuit-court-north-carolina-law-targeted-african-americans-surgical-precision

Since NC is the mentioned state:
https://www.ncdot.gov/dmv/driver/id/#VoterID

"Requirements & Documents to Obtain a No-Fee Voter ID Card

There is no fee charged for a North Carolina ID Card for an individual registered to vote in North Carolina who does not have acceptable photo identification under N.C. General Statute 163-166.13.

To obtain a No Fee Voter ID card, you must sign a declaration stating that you do not have an acceptable photo ID. If you already have an acceptable photo ID, you are not eligible to receive a No Fee Voter ID.

You must also be registered to vote. If you are not a registered voter, DMV will assist you in completing your voter registration application during your visit, and you will still be eligible for your No Fee Voter ID"


Damn those "affluent whites" who have access to free voter IDs
More racist bigotry from the left insinuating their own constituents arent smart or capable enough to get a no fee voter ID.

everything that's not a part of the democratic party is racist

Seems that way.

As such:
"Bernie is a racist!!!"
-democrats

Shillster has a valid point about narrowing the windows of registration.

I adamantly support Voter ID laws as a whole though.

Of course you do

Voter ID would be fine if it wasn't implemented in such a hamfisted way, designed purely by state Republicans to help their party win elections that they can't otherwise win. A lot of states already had a Voter ID requirement. You could pass a new voter ID requirement, and if the state assumed full cost to provide the ID to every registered voter as well as assumed any cost to rectify any issues, people wouldn't have a problem with that.



I mean thanks for the laugh and all, but NC got laughed out of court because they were asked to demonstrate why this needed to exist (and in this way) and they couldn't provide a reason. Just because you claim that something is "free" doesn't mean someone can obtain it for free; that's actually what got PA's omnibus suppression law thrown out: they said their ID itself is free so long as you have the materials necessary (naturally some don't), they make no mention of the transportation cost, or of the games they play with the days/hours these offices play with people, or how they require multiple trips just to acquire an ID the state can't even justify requiring to the court in the first place.

It's a fortunate thing these are getting thrown out and the GOP isn't being allowed to keep playing this shell game with peoples' right to vote. Unfortunately not every court has ruled the same way, and the GOP is doing their best by using their SCOTUS obstruction to keep as many of these laws on the books as they can. But if Trump loses and that 9th seat gets filled then it might finally be game over on the GOP's voter suppression.

The Democrats aren't far from blame too though. Ted Kennedy started importing immigrants from third world countries in the 60's full-well knowing that they would reduce the standard of living and become life-long Democrat voters dependent on the State. Its even worse than the Republican's vote manipulation because it directly affects standard of living.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Aug 25 2016 04:35pm