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Jul 15 2021 12:22pm
Segregation isn't enough - let's up the ante a little. White patriots can wave their White P...Confederate flags high and proud just like the good ol' days.

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Poll shows most Republicans in US south would back secession
Asked to imagine living in a new union with the states that joined Confederacy, two-thirds of Southern Republicans raised their hands


A new survey has found that two-thirds of Republicans living in the American South would approve of seceding from the US to join a hypothetical new union of southern states.

The alarming finding comes as the partisan alignment of different regions of the US becomes more extreme – and extends beyond politics and into Covid-19 vaccine takeup, with parts of the Southeast lagging well behind the rest of the country.


The poll, conducted by YouGov and Bright Line Watch, saw respondents across the country asked whether they would support joining an imaginary “union” of neighbouring states.

The pollsters divided the US into five of these groups: a Pacific one of California, Oregon, Washington, Alaska and Hawaii; “Mountain”, a slice down the Western states; “Heartland”, taking in the upper and central Midwest as well as some of the rust belt; “Northeast”, covering New England and the Mid-Atlantic states; and the “South”, which combined the 11 states that formally joined the Confederacy in 1860-61 with Kentucky and Oklahoma.


According to the results, a fair share of Democrats, Independents and Republicans in different regions can imagine leaving the US to join a smaller union might be a positive thing. But in only one region, the South, did a majority of one group come out in favour – with 66 per cent of Southern Republicans approving of the idea of a secessionist Southern union.
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Jul 15 2021 12:26pm
Quote (kenw @ Jul 15 2021 02:22pm)
Segregation isn't enough - let's up the ante a little. White patriots can wave their White P...Confederate flags high and proud just like the good ol' days.

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Poll shows most Republicans in US south would back secession
Asked to imagine living in a new union with the states that joined Confederacy, two-thirds of Southern Republicans raised their hands


A new survey has found that two-thirds of Republicans living in the American South would approve of seceding from the US to join a hypothetical new union of southern states.

The alarming finding comes as the partisan alignment of different regions of the US becomes more extreme – and extends beyond politics and into Covid-19 vaccine takeup, with parts of the Southeast lagging well behind the rest of the country.


The poll, conducted by YouGov and Bright Line Watch, saw respondents across the country asked whether they would support joining an imaginary “union” of neighbouring states.

The pollsters divided the US into five of these groups: a Pacific one of California, Oregon, Washington, Alaska and Hawaii; “Mountain”, a slice down the Western states; “Heartland”, taking in the upper and central Midwest as well as some of the rust belt; “Northeast”, covering New England and the Mid-Atlantic states; and the “South”, which combined the 11 states that formally joined the Confederacy in 1860-61 with Kentucky and Oklahoma.


According to the results, a fair share of Democrats, Independents and Republicans in different regions can imagine leaving the US to join a smaller union might be a positive thing. But in only one region, the South, did a majority of one group come out in favour – with 66 per cent of Southern Republicans approving of the idea of a secessionist Southern union.



How many confederate soldiers were black?
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Jul 15 2021 12:27pm
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How many confederate soldiers were black?


Zero, until it was legal for them to be soldiers a whole two weeks before they surrendered.
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Jul 15 2021 12:28pm
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No, it's correct. Pride movements typically stem from oppression. You don't hear about Han pride in China but you do hear about Zhuang pride.


To the contrary, Han pride is the CCP's screed right now.
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Jul 15 2021 12:39pm
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How many confederate soldiers were black?


Maybe a few thousand. Stockholm syndrome persists whether freed or not.
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Jul 15 2021 12:45pm
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Maybe a few thousand. Stockholm syndrome persists whether freed or not.


Great video

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Jul 15 2021 12:48pm
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To the contrary, Han pride is the CCP's screed right now.


This. Anyone else seeing the videos posted where Han Chinese are using others as personal slaves and servants? Its bad.
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Jul 15 2021 01:05pm
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Maybe a few thousand. Stockholm syndrome persists whether freed or not.



Freed blacks fought to protect their land. 20% of freed blacks owned slaves.
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Jul 15 2021 01:15pm
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Freed blacks fought to protect their land. 20% of freed blacks owned slaves.


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By 1850, Ellison had 37 slaves while his sons owned another 16. He was one of about 180 black slave masters in South Carolina at the time, most of whom were former slaves themselves. Like Ellison, they realized that the only way to get out of the lower middle class that so many freed blacks were stuck in, was slave labor. With nearly 9,000 free blacks in South Carolina, that 180 made up a tiny percentage who were willing to do anything to compete with the upper class white slaveowners at the time. Just because they owned slaves though did not mean they were treated equally among slaveowners. As Ellison subtly hints in his letter, white slave owners would avoid interacting with African Americans as much as possible. Ellison provided many whites in the area with what were the best cotton gins available which meant that if they wanted to produce the most cotton, they would have to do business with them. They would often try to avoid paying him though. Despite the discrimination, blacks owning blacks continued all the way up to the Civil War, with many African American slave owners, including Ellison, contributing and supporting the Confederate side. Stories like Ellison’s and other black slave owners showed the economic power of slavery in Southern America in the nineteenth century. The easiest way to achieve financial and social success was to own slaves and the allure of southern wealth was enough that it convinced a few of slavery’s former victims to switch to the other side.


source?

seems like far less according to this source.
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Jul 15 2021 01:34pm
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Freed blacks fought to protect their land. 20% of freed blacks owned slaves.


In a culture where self-hatred is rampant, I wouldn't even be surprised if that were true. How many of the slaves were White?
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