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Aug 12 2016 04:10pm
Quote (KublaiKhan @ Aug 12 2016 12:02pm)
Take a transcontinental plane journey. I've seen the curvature of the earth. You could too and it would cost you less than $200 if you shopped around and booked in advance. Might not even have to be transcontinental. As long as it's a clear day the Earth's horizontal curvature should be easily visible at a few thousand feet. That's if you think the horizon is a mirage - because that's viewable at sea level.



Another trick because of the concave windows in passenger seats, try the view in cockpits - oh thats right - they created a reason to lock the door and possibly armed guard it. You must obey.



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Aug 12 2016 04:11pm
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because the volume that items exist in is the same, is not the item you need to be thinking about, it's the volume it exists in. Typical deception of magic - always telling you where to look.


I don't think this answers my question very well. You're just telling me I'm confused but not why exactly.
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Aug 12 2016 04:12pm
At this point, I can only assume card_sultan is trolling.
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Aug 12 2016 04:13pm
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if gravity is pulling things to the earth and Gravity is because the weight of the Earth - how is it that dropping something in a cup of water can resist this great force that is everywhere but so easily overcome? Even a tiny fly can resist this great force, you can see it when you look at birds in flight in slow mo - there is no constant force on them pulling them down as you mistaking believe an apple falling to earth makes you believe, they are simply overcoming the vibrational density of the volume they exist in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok2T_dT5YJ0


i don't think you understood my question, TBH i don't know how to ask it.

So, we have a phoenomena, when you drop an apple it falls to the earth.

This is true both in a gravitational model and the model you're proposing.

So why specifically would an apple in a gravitational model not float? I assume that's the point you're trying to make, that if gravity were real it would act on water and apples differently than what the phenomena produces. What im asking is specifically why would that happen?

More specifically water is a liquid, that is in a container. Without a container it would fall to the lowest possible point. So If i drop an apple in water its bound to the container, which gives the water form. In this sense the water takes up a certain space. In this way it is no different than a solid object sitting on top of another solid object in the sense that density matters with respect to which item can and cannot pass through another. This is the reason I don't understand your hypothetical as a critique of gravity, but try and answer the above more simple questions.

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Another trick because of the concave windows in passenger seats, try the view in cockpits - oh thats right - they created a reason to lock the door and possibly armed guard it. You must obey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc_9uFQ9Ss4


Am i understanding you to suggest 9-11 was staged so that they could armed guard cockpits to protect the secret of the flat earth?


I think i just got a boner from 911 conspiracies and flat earth conspiracies having 0 degrees of separation.

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Or trying to make a point about the general underdetermination of scientific theory.


TBH i've always thought this was the real motivation. to be fair to CS he's not a strict believer in much, as compared to malice or qodesh who are deep into their beliefs.

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At this point, I can only assume card_sultan is trolling.


Or trying to make a point about the general underdetermination of scientific theory.

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Am i understanding you to suggest 9-11 was staged so that they could armed guard cockpits to protect the secret of the flat earth?


I think i just got a boner from 911 conspiracies and flat earth conspiracies having 0 degrees of separation.


Two raging clues smashed together.

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Charter a private plane. you can fly in a biplane for not much at all, a few hundred dollars or even less depending on where you go. You can often even sit in the cockpit if you want.

You think literally every person who has ever got a pilot's license is in on the conspiracy to make you think the Earth is round? Do you not see how mad that is? Almost anyone can get a pilot's license.
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Aug 12 2016 04:17pm
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Or trying to make a point about the general underdetermination of scientific theory.



Two raging clues smashed together.


It's like the movie World War Z. Card_sultan is the crazy scientist they make question everything even if it makes sense just in case somehow it actually doesn't.
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Aug 12 2016 04:21pm
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I don't think this answers my question very well. You're just telling me I'm confused but not why exactly.


Paradigm Shift is a scary thing, but the fear of change will pass.

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Aug 12 2016 04:22pm
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Charter a private plane. you can fly in a biplane for not much at all, a few hundred dollars or even less depending on where you go. You can often even sit in the cockpit if you want.

You think literally every person who has ever got a pilot's license is in on the conspiracy to make you think the Earth is round? Do you not see how mad that is? Almost anyone can get a pilot's license.


So show me a video of a cockpit in a chartered plane that doesn't use a wide angle lense?
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Aug 12 2016 04:24pm
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At this point, I can only assume card_sultan is trolling.


Eventually when no one can disprove anything i say, people resort to personal attacks - i think it is you who are trolling.
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