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this is odd coming from a permanent warmongering xenophobe like you


well said my friend


GWB did nothing wrong.
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GWB did nothing wrong.



didnt do much right. he did piss off Al Gore (who created the internet, just ask him) so that was kinda funny and definitely not wrong

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GWB did nothing wrong.

The second Iraq War is probably the most unnecessary and consequential political blunder in American post-war history. Seriously, can anyone name any political decision with more disastrous consequences than this one?
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The second Iraq War is probably the most unnecessary and consequential political blunder in American post-war history. Seriously, can anyone name any political decision with more disastrous consequences than this one?


makes sense if you consider all wars are deep state.
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The second Iraq War is probably the most unnecessary and consequential political blunder in American post-war history. Seriously, can anyone name any political decision with more disastrous consequences than this one?


Idk, Raytheon made a lot of money off of it.
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The second Iraq War is probably the most unnecessary and consequential political blunder in American post-war history. Seriously, can anyone name any political decision with more disastrous consequences than this one?


Iraq is a stable democratic-ish country now. The same people who are against Saddam being replaced are the same people who felt like Hitler could be controlled post WW2.

I'd argue that the Vietnam War was a bigger blunder than the Iraq War. I know you don't value American lives but I think 50,000 Americans dead is far worse than 4000.
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Never seen joe biden touch or hold young boys or adults like this.

Joe has a special spot in him that loves little girls
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Iraq is a stable democratic-ish country now. The same people who are against Saddam being replaced are the same people who felt like Hitler could be controlled post WW2.

I'd argue that the Vietnam War was a bigger blunder than the Iraq War. I know you don't value American lives but I think 50,000 Americans dead is far worse than 4000.


Iraq was invaded because they resisted central banking. You're one of the most clueless and narcissistic posters on this entire website.
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Iraq is a stable democratic-ish country now. The same people who are against Saddam being replaced are the same people who felt like Hitler could be controlled post WW2.

I'd argue that the Vietnam War was a bigger blunder than the Iraq War. I know you don't value American lives but I think 50,000 Americans dead is far worse than 4000.


The Iraq War led to over 500k civilian casualties and destablized the entire region. Without the Iraq War, the Syrian Civil War will not break out (another 600k casualties), ISIS will not be formed, there aren't dozens of terrorist attacks and bombings all across Europe and NA, even the civil wars in Libya and Yemen might not happen. Thus, there is also no refugee crisis, the political landscape in Europe looks very different today. This, in turn, also means that there's no Brexit and prooobably no Trump presidency. Also, Hillary wins the 2008 Dem primaries and becomes president; Obama is probably president right around now and will be a much more effective leader because he doesn't get to the White House before he's experienced and shrewd enough.


Long story short, the Iraq War is a prime example of the butterfly effect and almost all events triggered by it suck ass. On top of that, the Iraq War was completely unnecessary. Saddam did not possess WMDs and posed no real threat. By contrast, the Vietnam war was part of the Cold War, a bloody civil war between the North and the South was inevitable, irrespective of American involvement.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 6 2021 09:25pm)
The Iraq War led to over 500k civilian casualties and destablized the entire region. Without the Iraq War, the Syrian Civil War will not break out (another 600k casualties), ISIS will not be formed, there aren't dozens of terrorist attacks and bombings all across Europe and NA, even the civil wars in Libya and Yemen might not happen. Thus, there is also no refugee crisis, the political landscape in Europe looks very different today. This, in turn, also means that there's no Brexit and prooobably no Trump presidency. Also, Hillary wins the 2008 Dem primaries and becomes president; Obama is probably president right around now and will be a much more effective leader because he doesn't get to the White House before he's experienced and shrewd enough.


Long story short, the Iraq War is a prime example of the butterfly effect and almost all events triggered by it suck ass. On top of that, the Iraq War was completely unnecessary. Saddam did not possess WMDs and posed no real threat. By contrast, the Vietnam war was part of the Cold War, a bloody civil war between the North and the South was inevitable, irrespective of American involvement.


i dont know why people insist on this. he most certainly did he gassed the northern kurds
Halabja chemical attack

easy to make an argument that saddam was a destabilizing force in the middle east
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