That's a bad comparison. When you buy a product, the product is not harmed by the personality or qualifications of the salesperson. By contrast, Trump's blunders and misguided decisions are affecting millions of Americans in a tangible way. This doesnt mean that the alternative is better, but it must be acknowledged. Even a voter who likes the majority of the policies coming out of the Trump administration has to acknowledge his tendency to shoot himself in the foot and fuck things up.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 7 2020 09:19am

can't say i agree, you want to participate in bernie madoff's next hedge fund?

trump shooting himself in the foot is not a new development. if voters are that surprised and wishy-washy over a known 5-year attribute then that is just lol

No thanks. Generally not interested in gambling fg on the election.
For the record: I do think that there is some hidden Trump vote and that he will overperform his polls in the end. I just dont think that it's gonna be enough.


If I had to make an educated guess, I would say the odds for winning the election in Arizona imho are 65:35 in Biden's favor, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania imho are 60:40 Biden, Florida and North Carolina 67:33 Trump, Texas 85:15 Trump. (Texas will only go blue if Trump really falls apart between now and election day.)

If the election was held today, I would say 80:20 Biden in AZ, 70:30 Biden in WI and PA, 60:40 Trump in FL and NC, and 75:25 Trump in TX.

Product as in "physical product", as opposed to a (non-phsical) service. But ok, if you were thinking about financial products, then I see your point.



It has gotten worse recently. His instincts seem more off than they did previously, and covid simply exposes Trump's weaknesses in a way that no previous crisis did.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 7 2020 09:33am

the trump vote isn't hidden like in 2016, its hidden to the pollsters, its plain as day when you walk around areas like mine.

the most simple explanation i can come up with is Trump voters naturally are weary of pollsters, fearing becoming part of a fake news article, and do not participate in them. i'd have to do a lot of digging to verify that, if i even could, but science starts from observation. my eyes dont match up with what polls are saying. sometimes eyes trick you, but ill trust them and be happy to be dead wrong.

This is true.

When pollsters ask “who are your neighbors voting for”, 60% say “Trump.

probably closet 1/1024 native candidate voters

Uh. You’re really going to use a Ponzi scheme as your example of “a product”???

Can I get a tl;dr of this thread before I open up topics that may have already been mentioned?

I hate spamming and reposting

Or is it ok if I say something that's been said before?




On second thought maybe I'll just read the whole thread.

This post was edited by Ramy on Oct 7 2020 10:42am

This aged nicely.