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Dec 6 2023 01:09pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 6 2023 01:06pm)
I didn't say we should listen to them. I am just saying that Israelis do not have the moral high ground here. Something that the pro-Israel crowd in this thread fails to see.


Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 6 2023 01:04pm)
Why do Gazans have to yield? Why can't Israelis yield?


israelis did yield, when they entirely left gaza 15 years ago, and let Hamas run the territory. and israel would gladly let gaza become a country and remove the blockade, if hamas stopped attacking israel.

instead hamas has stated in its founding documents they will never stop until every last jews is dead.

you think people who do bad things dont have a moral high ground over literal genocidal terrorists? what a small minded thing to post.

do they have an unshaking moral high ground on all things? of course not. but compared to terrorists? lol wtf r u on?
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Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 6 2023 11:04am)
Why do Gazans have to yield? Why can't Israelis yield?


Can you really not see how outmatched they are? Israel is the 4th most powerful military in the world and the most powerful per capita, while Gaza is a terrorist enclave whose military technology is comprised of shitty rocket launchers made from dug up water pipes, old AK-47s and paragliders.
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Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 6 2023 11:02am)
And Palestinians aren't going anywhere, either. So I guess there will be endless bloodshed in the region.


Endless? When they're all gone it will end. They don't have a choice, they're being forcibly relocated.
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Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 6 2023 11:01am)
From the vantage point of people who had been living there when Jews came, Jews were invaders.

It's not constructive to talk about who is the rightful owner of that land because so many peoples have lived there.


You're the one who brought it up. You say now it's not constructive to talk about, yet you're the one who accused Israelis of being settlers/invaders.
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Quote (El1te @ Dec 6 2023 02:17pm)
Can you really not see how outmatched they are? Israel is the 4th most powerful military in the world and the most powerful per capita


And yet paragliding enthusiasts somehow flew in undetected and created a 2nd 9/11?
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Quote (zorzin @ Dec 6 2023 11:29am)
And yet paragliding enthusiasts somehow flew in undetected and created a 2nd 9/11?


Yes, they attacked a bunch of defenseless civilians, children, and young adults. If Israel wanted to do the same thing they'd efficiently slaughter millions of muslims over the course of a few weeks yet these terrorist sub-humans only managed to kill ~1,400.

Israel isn't omnipotent even if you like to think they are.

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Quote (El1te @ Dec 6 2023 11:17am)
Can you really not see how outmatched they are? Israel is the 4th most powerful military in the world and the most powerful per capita, while Gaza is a terrorist enclave whose military technology is comprised of shitty rocket launchers made from dug up water pipes, old AK-47s and paragliders.


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Israel isn't omnipotent even if you like to think they are.


hmmmm
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Quote (gnarjay @ Dec 6 2023 11:38am)
hmmmm


Can you clarify how being a very powerful military force is equivalent to omnipotence?
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Quote (El1te @ Dec 6 2023 07:40pm)
Can you clarify how being a very powerful military force is equivalent to omnipotence?


They won't do clarity. Obfuscation is a tool of misinformation and propagandists.

Also he is conflating the idea of Israel being omnipotent with the conflict being asymmetrical. When in reality Israel does have an elite fighting force, but its more because Hamas are a subterranean poor mans Daesh that leads to the asymmetry.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Dec 6 2023 01:47pm
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 6 2023 11:44am)
They won't do clarity. Obfuscation is a tool of misinformation and propagandists.


Indeed.

Its also evident to me that many of these self-hating pro-terrorist White leftists think Call of Duty is reality. They think powerful militaries such as the US or Israel have the equivalent of an all-seeing God's Eye-like technology that can see everyone and everything in precise detail, and can call in precision strikes from orbit that can selectively kill terrorists in their homes with no collateral damage.

Its hilarious and maddening that people are so insulated from reality, the same people have spent the majority of their adult waking hours playing video games

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