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in the beginning there was nothing
absolutely nothing
..........then it exploded and made everything
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in the beginning there was nothing
absolutely nothing
..........then it exploded and made everything






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According to Biblical texts, god is no savior. As a matter of fact, he's a genocidal tyrant who gets upset his creations use their free will he gave to them.

Of course, that's assuming there is a god. Which there's still no testable evidence of this being the case.


if your going to make claims about scripture your going to have to provide said scripture version(translation) chapter and verse then your argument.

the creation proves a creator, abiogenesis has been proven to be a ridiculous idea. (macro) evolution is an untestable idea and therefore unscientific
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if your going to make claims about scripture your going to have to provide said scripture version(translation) chapter and verse then your argument.

the creation proves a creator, abiogenesis has been proven to be a ridiculous idea. (macro) evolution is an untestable idea and therefore unscientific


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Quote (TiStuff @ 30 Apr 2023 22:51)
good for that dude. why dont you go find him and give him a what for?


No proof no cookie
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Quote (beanbag @ May 1 2023 02:55am)
According to Biblical texts, god is no savior. As a matter of fact, he's a genocidal tyrant who gets upset his creations use their free will he gave to them.

Of course, that's assuming there is a god. Which there's still no testable evidence of this being the case.


God created things which had free will. That means creatures which can go either wrong or right. Some people think they can imagine a creature which was free but had no possibility of going wrong; I cannot. If a thing is free to be good it is also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible. Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having. A world of automata-of creatures that worked like machines-would hardly be worth creating. The happiness which God designs for His higher creatures is the happiness of being freely, voluntarily united to Him and to each other in an ecstasy of love and delight compared with which the most rapturous love between a man and a woman on this earth is mere milk and water. And for that they must be free.

Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently He thought it worth the risk. Perhaps we feel inclined to disagree with Him. But there is a difficulty about disagreeing with God. He is the source from which all your reasoning power comes: you could not be right and He wrong any more than a stream can rise higher than its own source. When you are arguing against Him you are arguing against the very power that makes you able to argue at all: it is like cutting off the branch you are sitting on. If God thinks this state of war in the universe a price worth paying for free will-that is, for making a live world in which creatures can do real good or harm and something of real importance can happen, instead of a toy world which only moves when He pulls the strings-then we may take it it is worth paying.
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Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 30 2023 03:10pm)
No proof no cookie


your proof of God. scripture claims God made man and since your existence has no scientific explanation that by default makes you a supernatural creature and proof of God.


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(of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
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Quote (addone @ Apr 30 2023 01:50pm)


uppity snot nosed atheist looked at God and told him "we dont need you any more"
to that God replied "o? hows that"
uppity snot nosed atheist: "we progressed far enough that we dont need you. we even know how to make life"
God: "o is that so? why dont you show me?"
uppity snot nosed atheist: "ok i will" (he then proceeds to pick up a hand full of dirt)
God: "what do you think your doing? thats my dirt, get your own dirt"
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