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This post was edited by SpAz. on Oct 22 2020 03:41am
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/breaking-smoking-gun-email-hunters-laptop-proves-bidens-paid-shut-burisma-investigation-make-go-away/

A whopper:




This makes it explicitly clear: Hunter Biden was given direct instructions from Burisma that the scope of his work, being paid millions, was to shut down cases/pursuits against Nikolai Zlochevsky (the ukrainian oligarch and owner of Burisma, who switched from pro-Russia to pro-US after Euromaidan)
The Biden camp has repeatedly dismissed the Burisma story by saying that Burisma was never under investigation
Here we have Hunter Biden being told his entire job is to shut down investigations into Burisma
And we have Joe Biden intimately involved with Hunter Biden's business dealings
We have an email where they explicitly told Hunter Biden his job is to arrange a visit by high level US officials to Ukraine to get rid of the investigations into Burisma.
And then Joe Biden flies to Ukraine, tells them to fire the guy investigating Burisma, or he'll withhold US foreign aid, and they fire him

This post was edited by Goomshill on Oct 22 2020 04:22am
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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 22 2020 11:36am)
So TLDR:

A business partner / witness / email recipient is on the record and confirms
  • The emails are real
  • Joe Biden was directly involved and lied about it
  • Joe Biden is "the big guy" getting a cut
  • The Chinese were using it to pay bribe money / buy influence
  • Hunter/Joe Biden went behind their partners backs to take the Chinese bribes


This whole thing reads like a Cosa Nostra family structure with joe "the big guy" Biden at the head of it.

Lock em up already

ffs

This post was edited by Djunior on Oct 22 2020 04:29am
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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 22 2020 09:18pm)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/breaking-smoking-gun-email-hunters-laptop-proves-bidens-paid-shut-burisma-investigation-make-go-away/

A whopper:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Burisma-Email-to-Hunter.jpg


This makes it explicitly clear: Hunter Biden was given direct instructions from Burisma that the scope of his work, being paid millions, was to shut down cases/pursuits against Nikolai Zlochevsky (the ukrainian oligarch and owner of Burisma, who switched from pro-Russia to pro-US after Euromaidan)
The Biden camp has repeatedly dismissed the Burisma story by saying that Burisma was never under investigation
Here we have Hunter Biden being told his entire job is to shut down investigations into Burisma
And we have Joe Biden intimately involved with Hunter Biden's business dealings
We have an email where they explicitly told Hunter Biden his job is to arrange a visit by high level US officials to Ukraine to get rid of the investigations into Burisma.
And then Joe Biden flies to Ukraine, tells them to fire the guy investigating Burisma, or he'll withhold US foreign aid, and they fire him


Or it's fake news.
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Oct 22 2020 06:55am
https://imgur.com/gallery/DHk8O5S

https://i.imgur.com/0oPYXmL.jpg

Rudy Giuliani about to get a bj from a girl he believed to be a teenager supplied by the Russians/Ukrainians.

How many times has he done this that it is so casual this time?

Amazing how many people don't care that the second personal lawyer for the president is a russian asset?


Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 22 2020 06:18am)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/breaking-smoking-gun-email-hunters-laptop-proves-bidens-paid-shut-burisma-investigation-make-go-away/

A whopper:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Burisma-Email-to-Hunter.jpg


This makes it explicitly clear: Hunter Biden was given direct instructions from Burisma that the scope of his work, being paid millions, was to shut down cases/pursuits against Nikolai Zlochevsky (the ukrainian oligarch and owner of Burisma, who switched from pro-Russia to pro-US after Euromaidan)
The Biden camp has repeatedly dismissed the Burisma story by saying that Burisma was never under investigation
Here we have Hunter Biden being told his entire job is to shut down investigations into Burisma
And we have Joe Biden intimately involved with Hunter Biden's business dealings
We have an email where they explicitly told Hunter Biden his job is to arrange a visit by high level US officials to Ukraine to get rid of the investigations into Burisma.
And then Joe Biden flies to Ukraine, tells them to fire the guy investigating Burisma, or he'll withhold US foreign aid, and they fire him


Where are the kids though? The offensive allegations are Hunter Biden is a pedophile, you accused him of this.

And how do you feel now that you know Guiliani is a russian asset?

This post was edited by Skinned on Oct 22 2020 06:57am
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Quote (Skinned @ Oct 22 2020 08:55am)
https://imgur.com/gallery/DHk8O5S

https://i.imgur.com/0oPYXmL.jpg

Rudy Giuliani about to get a bj from a girl he believed to be a teenager supplied by the Russians/Ukrainians.

How many times has he done this that it is so casual this time?

Amazing how many people don't care that the second personal lawyer for the president is a russian asset?




Where are the kids though? The offensive allegations are Hunter Biden is a pedophile, you accused him of this.

And how do you feel now that you know Guiliani is a russian asset?



Fucking lol
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Oct 22 2020 07:08am
edit: i dont know if i have the right viktor now wtf

This post was edited by thesnipa on Oct 22 2020 07:12am
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Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 22 2020 09:08am)
Viktor Pshonka, the fired prosecutor:

he dindu nuffin tho, was a stand up guy who only got fired so Joe could get Hunter a job........

the guy is a russian lackee, connected to Right Sector heavily, helped in the Crimea curfuffle, stole a bunch of files that he hid in his mansion....

and with any eastern European politics, the scandals u know about and murders u can implicate are the tip of the iceberg.

but sure goom, joe and the USA had zero reason to want this guy removed other than crack money for Hunter.......


lol

Pretty much every politician/person with power in eastern Europe is corrupt. Why is a top American politician so concerned with this one specifically.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 22 2020 09:08am)
edit: i dont know if i have the right viktor now wtf


Lol.

From all intents and purposes you probably do. From what I understand the US was working extensively on anti-corruption efforts in attempts to help Ukraine modernize to the level of Western Europe. This is why there is so much opposition to Biden from Russia and why they're leaning so hard on compromised assets like Giuliani who has very high levels of access for an asset of theirs.

You probably mean this Viktor: Viktor Shokin: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/viktor-shokin-ukraine-prosecutor-trump-biden-hunter-joe-investigation-impeachment-a9147001.html

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D
avid Sakvarelidze was five months into a new job as Ukraine’s reformist deputy chief prosecutor when a witness came forward with intelligence that would change the course of everything.

The witness, a sand producer in the Kiev region, complained of men extorting hundreds of thousands of dollars. It took a while to persuade the man to give evidence. But when he did, and the investigation began, the trail led to two of the country’s highest-placed prosecutors.

A search of the men’s apartments revealed a scene that looked like a comic heist: bags full of cash, diamonds and other precious stones. But that was not the only incriminating evidence. Documents seized at the time indicated the men appeared to have a connection to the top prosecutor in the land, Viktor Shokin.

Police found copies of Shokin’s passports, property registration certificates and even his licence to carry firearms. One of the two men, it transpired, was Shokin’s former driver who had subsequently climbed the ranks behind his boss.



For Sakvarelidze, there were clear suspicions the two men may have been carrying out the business of the chief. But his attempts to investigate were frustrated. Soon, he faced a corruption investigation himself. At loggerheads with Shokin, he was pushed out of his job within the year.

The top prosecutor would also depart in March 2016, at the behest of US vice-president Joe Biden. It was an intervention into local politics that would come back to haunt both Biden and Ukraine.

Shokin’s year atop the prosecutor’s office was for a long time remembered simply as the time of the “diamond prosecutors”.

All that changed with the intervention of Donald Trump. The American president's description of Shokin as “that very good” prosecutor, quoted during his now-infamous 25 July call with President Volodymyr Zelensky, certainly surprised most Ukrainians. For the former prosecutor, it was a chance to rehabilitate himself.

The wild conspiracy theory on which Trump based his assertion – that Joe Biden had Shokin removed to stop him investigating wrongdoing in his son’s gas company – has already been widely debunked.


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Put simply, the chronology doesn’t work – the investigation into Burisma, where Hunter worked, was dormant by the time Shokin was pushed out. It would also represent a major historical anomaly. During Shokin’s 13 months in office, not one major figure was convicted. No oligarch. No politician. No ranking bureaucrat. It would appear unlikely he was in the middle of breaking the habit with the Bidens.


Very much a Kleptocrat like Trump himself.

This post was edited by Skinned on Oct 22 2020 07:23am
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 22 2020 08:11am)
lol

Pretty much every politician/person with power in eastern Europe is corrupt. Why is a top American politician so concerned with this one specifically.


well, i may have mixed up viktors.

but given that the 1bn$ withholding visit was Biden's 6th visit to the country, in a long line of visits in line with the Annexation of Crimea, and post Annexation it was a mess of find the ruskie kill the ruskie, a mess that was moving really slow, i'd say he wanted to grease the wheels.

his visits and efforts in Ukraine seem to predate Hunter even being hired to the board of Burisma.

did people forget that Crimea was a big deal? that it was a flashpoint in Russian expansion that many people thought might bring a softer new cold war era of expansion around Russia's borders? it caused NATO controversies in the Balkans due to what they felt was a lack of protection. Etc.

On the whole, my uneducated guess would be that Biden was working in Ukraine pre-Hunter/Burisma hiring. it was moving slow from 2009-2014. Crimea happens both due to the people there being ethnically Russian and a growing sense the Ukrainian govt is shifting away from Russia. This then speeds up the wants of anti-Russia Ukrainian officials, who are also connected to Oligarchs or Oligarchs themselves, to want to speed up the exodus of pro-Russian officials. Perhaps at the near top of this list is the country's prosecutor, who can selectively investigate new oligarchs and not investigate pro-Russian oligarchs. With control shifting the need to take back the justice system is dire during and after the Crimea crisis. Biden has been in the area already, but they think hiring Hunter will speed things up, and it very well may have.

the point i'd make is that its not as if Biden had no connections to Ukranian politics, showed up one day, shook them down, and bounced. what we're looking at here at best is an increase in his focus on the situation.

and overall its the reason u dont want to get too involved in Eastern European politics, like u said everyone is corrupt, everyone is connected to Oligarchs, etc. They're just white middle easterners.




Quote (Skinned @ Oct 22 2020 08:19am)
Lol.

From all intents and purposes you probably do. From what I understand the US was working extensively on anti-corruption efforts in attempts to help Ukraine modernize to the level of Western Europe. This is why there is so much opposition to Biden from Russia and why they're leaning so hard on compromised assets like Giuliani who has very high levels of access for an asset of theirs.

You probably mean this Viktor: Viktor Shokin: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/viktor-shokin-ukraine-prosecutor-trump-biden-hunter-joe-investigation-impeachment-a9147001.html



Very much a Kleptocrat like Trump himself.


correct i had the wrong Viktor in the crimes i listed, was confused because the 2 viktors are connected. in any case....

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