not just that. you know how the political right in america always accuses protesters of being paid and professional protesters whenever they realise they are outnumbered?
poo's far-right overlords did exactly that: http://uk.businessinsider.com/r-germanys-far-right-afd-offers-members-cash-to-travel-to-protest-2018-5?IR=T

in related news, russia's attempts to destabilise the west and influence our elections are of course not exclusively limited to america: apparently they thought the german right wing was worthy of their support as well: http://uk.businessinsider.com/r-germanys-far-right-afd-offers-members-cash-to-travel-to-protest-2018-5?IR=T

Typical EU, that. Happy to have our own system provided we get a full refund of our money invested + compensation.

ah yes, look like it's pretty clear

https://www.thelocal.de/20180522/russian-payment-for-afd-leaders-private-jet-is-shocking-critics-say

ok, such a shame for them rofl.

And it's typical for the UK to accept terms and crawl back later.

Imo there is room for negotiation between the UK as a trusted ally, recent EU member and co-developer of Galileo, and the EU towards becoming a more military centralized entity, wanting to protect its sensitive information from 3rd parties.

I'm somewhat interested how using the GPS network isn't an option and the impractical costly: "We will build our own system" gets the attention... There's been a rise in UK's nationalism is my best guess

/e side note: has the UK decided on the type of Brexit yet?
/e2 Should actually ask that every day from now. We need an answer to really start negotiating.

This post was edited by Knoppie on May 27 2018 04:37pm

the headline is already ridiculous, but how would you know that

not to mention that fake news merchant fenderp is spreading his propaganda again

30 people (what a crazy amount) received 50 bucks each to pay for the long trip from western germany to berlin

his own link says as much

it takes a serious retard to construct "oh look nazis have to pay people!!!!!11!!!"

antifa logic at its best
meanwhile in reality the established parties have been funding anti afd protests for years (which is fine with me)

its not really suprising, that the left mobilises more people
overall it was a good day for democracy when everyone could protest peacefully

Yes, the documents exist. One of them is the "EnfoCATs" document that was partially leaked: https://estaticos.elperiodico.com/resources/pdf/8/2/1512468377228.pdf?_ga=2.28083130.726508289.1527502064-1385701184.1525980315

http://www.diarioinformacion.com/nacional/2017/12/21/informe-enfocats-recogia-deseo-violencia/1970737.html
https://www.elperiodico.com/es/politica/20171205/enfocats-documento-junqueras-prision-6475171
http://www.elmundo.es/espana/2017/10/10/59dca80ee2704e0d0f8b45d7.html
https://www.elnacional.cat/es/politica/enfocats-tribunal-supremo-junqueras_218481_102.html

It includes the scenario of violent civil resistance (not necessarily to police intervention, but also government actions, like triggering article 155). It also mentions plans to bait the spanish state and police into causing scenes that they could manipulate for propaganda purposes.

Don't forget that Puigdemont himself admits there "some" violence initiated by the separatist side... but he claims he can't be held responsible for it, and that the spanish justice system should prosecute those individuals and not him: http://www.elmundo.es/espana/2018/04/02/5ac24b51ca4741fc288b45dc.html

The documents were taken from his vicepresident Junqueras. Obviously Puigdemont knew about them. The question is if he can be LEGALLY held accountable of the violent consequences of his plan (which already detailed that possibility in several documents, like the EnfoCATS one) through the charge of rebellion, despite not being physically involved in the instances of violence. Like I said, the law is sadly not very specific, which opens a lot of room for interpretation. This is why the centre-left party PSOE has promised to change the law to specifically say that authorities can be accused of rebellion if they try to eliminate the constitutional order, regardless of them doing so in a violent way that physically involved the rebel leaders (like a military coup) or an administrative way (like the separatist government did): https://www.larazon.es/espana/el-psoe-promovera-la-reforma-del-delito-de-rebelion-en-el-codigo-penal-DM18365170

In other spanish news. The decade long trial against a huge corruption case involving the centre-right party PP (Rajoy's party) came to an end last week. Several important memebers of the party (well, formerly important... they were shoved to a side as the trial's investigation progressed) have been convicted with very long prison sentences, and the party as a whole has been declared beneficiary of the scheme and given partial responsibility.

This has led to Pedro Sánchez, the leader of the opposition and the centre-left party PSOE, to file a vote in parliament to kick out Rajoy and take over his position. He will need 176 affirmative votes out of the 350 seats in parliament. He has the backing of his own men (85 seats), the left-to-far-left party UP (71 seats), catalan separatist left win party ERC (9 seats) and basque separatist left-wing party Bildu (2 seats), for a total of 167 seats. He will need the support of either the centrist C's (32 seats) or both the basque nationalist right-wing PNV (5 seats) or the catalan separatist right-wing PDeCat (8 seats), to form a majority. The one seat from the Canarian regionalist centrist party CC is irrelevant, although they said they'll vote no because they don't want to create further turmoil.

PNV and PDeCat say they'd be ok with a change, so long as the new spanish government makes important concessions to the basque regions and Catalonia. C's said they'd only support the proposal if Sánchez promised to immediately call for elections, so that the citizens can decide who is the next president; otherwise they will null-vote, or vote against it (depending on whether separatist PSOE has negotiated concessions to the separatists or not).

This has created a climate of uncertainty and lack of stability... it's really hard to tell what will happen. Elections would be the best way out imo, but Sánchez is not interested in that, as the polls right now don't favour him, but I don't think his party would accept making significant concessions to separatists either. Rajoy is also not interested in there being elections, as he knows for sure that his party will suffer big time after his lack of actions during the catalan issue until the Court ordered him to, and this huge corruption case that has now exploded in his face.

edit: it has just been announced that the parliamentary debate and vote to kick out Rajoy will be held this Thursday and Friday.

This post was edited by zarkadon on May 28 2018 05:04am

Poll shows support for EU at 35-year high across bloc

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-election-poll/poll-shows-support-for-eu-at-35-year-high-across-bloc-idUSKCN1IO2SP

The 67-percent positive rating for the EU across the bloc marked a rise from 64 percent in October and 60 percent in surveys a few months before and after Britain’s Brexit vote. The low point in recent years was 52 percent in 2011, at the height of the sovereign debt crisis in the euro zone.

#ITEXIT

Political crisis in Italy at the moment as their president blocked the appointment of a Eurosceptic finance minister. Obviously the talk of impeachment is overblown nonsense, but this could be one step closer to #ITEXIT

i know you want to drag others in your situation Doesnt means it will happen



This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on May 28 2018 07:17am