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Sep 18 2012 07:16am
Quote (Matao @ Sep 17 2012 02:30pm)
and most of it is a crock of !@#$

i do like ecclesiastes tho
decent philosophy for the most part
and a good start to the " if you dont think anything is worthwhile , why dont you just kill yourself then " arguement


None of it is. It's all God's word. There is no way that it could fit together the way it does, if god hadn't inspired it. For it was written through 40 men, who lived in different parts of the world, at different times over a 1600 year period and from different walks of life. There is no way that they got together and planned it that way and YET it fits together as if it were written by one person. God directed it. There is no other book in the world like the Bible.
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Sep 18 2012 08:27am
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None of it is.  It's all God's word.  There is no way that it could fit together the way it does, if god hadn't inspired it.  For it was written through 40 men, who lived in different parts of the world, at different times over a 1600 year period and from different walks of life.  There is no way that they got together and planned it that way and YET it fits together as if it were written by one person.  God directed it.  There is no other book in the world like the Bible.


Obviously no 2 bibles are alike.... There is no other book like the bible
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Sep 18 2012 07:19pm
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Obviously no 2 bibles are alike.... There is no other book like the bible


The Bible was translated from Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic to English. There are different translations of the Bible, but the original language is unchanged. No there is no other book like the Bible. It is God's Word.
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Sep 20 2012 07:55am
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The gospel of paul was written by luke, a travelling companion of paul, not paul himself.


The is no book called the Gospel of Paul. Secondly, Paul did have someone transcribe his words, that doesn't make them any less his words. The disciples, Jesus's half brothers and the Christians who knew Jesus peronally all accepted Paul, his calling and his theology. God made it known who Paul was.
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Sep 20 2012 09:04am
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The is no book called the Gospel of Paul.  Secondly, Paul did have someone transcribe his words, that doesn't make them any less his words.  The disciples, Jesus's half brothers and the Christians who knew Jesus peronally all accepted Paul, his calling and his theology.  God made it known who Paul was.


He was a bounty hunter who killdd Christians.... U tell me if hitler said the same thing Paul said "I saw visions u would believe in him?
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He was a bounty hunter who killdd Christians.... U tell me if hitler said the same thing Paul said "I saw visions u would believe in him?


Which makes Paul's story even more amazing. Paul was on the fast-track to become a very powerful and wealthy leader of the Jewish temple. Jesus stopped him in his tracks on the road to Damascus and from that point forward, Paul's only concern was reaching the lost for Christ. During this time of mission work, Paul was beaten many times (almost to the point of death on some occasions), he was shipwrecked, he was also thrown in jail many times. Through all of that, he did not waver on the beliefs (in Jesus) that he once condemned earlier in his life.
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He was a bounty hunter who killdd Christians.... U tell me if hitler said the same thing Paul said "I saw visions u would believe in him?


No, that would make him like mohammad who was like a hitler and was a child molester. It wasn't as simple as some guy claiming to be of God and everything that he says contradicts God's word like mohammad did. Paul saw a vision of the Ascended Lord Jesus Chirst. The soldiers that were with him also heard the voice of the Lord, but didn't see the vision. Paul went blind due to the vision and as a sign from the Lord. He was told to go into the city by God. The Lord THEN spoke to Ananias who was a disciple of the Lord and the Lord used him to restore Paul's sight. Scales fell off of Paul's eyes as his sight was restored. Then Paul began to preach. The disciples and apostles and eyewitnesses of Jesus approved of Paul's doctrine. He never contradicted the word of God as mohammad does.
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No, that would make him like mohammad who was like a hitler and was a child molester.  It wasn't as simple as some guy claiming to be of God and everything that he says contradicts God's word like mohammad did.  Paul saw a vision of the Ascended Lord Jesus Chirst.  The soldiers that were with him also heard the voice of the Lord, but didn't see the vision.  Paul went blind due to the vision and as a sign from the Lord.  He was told to go into the city by God.  The Lord THEN spoke to Ananias who was a disciple of the Lord and the Lord used him to restore Paul's sight.  Scales fell off of Paul's eyes as his sight was restored.  Then Paul began to preach. The disciples and apostles and eyewitnesses of Jesus approved of Paul's doctrine.  He never contradicted the word of God as mohammad does.



Paul was like a hitler. He killed Christians for no reason as Hitler killed Jews for no reason.

Mohammad didn't kill anyone himself.

Mohammad only ordered people to kill if they first tried to kill us. Which you simply cannot comprehend.
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Paul was like a hitler. He killed Christians for no reason as Hitler killed Jews for no reason.

Mohammad didn't kill anyone himself.

Mohammad only ordered people to kill if they first tried to kill us. Which you simply cannot comprehend.


Paul was like an Osama Bin Laden, true, except Paul was a Jew and murdered Christians. He killed Christians because they were converting the Jews to Christianity, so there was a reason. He believed he was doing God's work as did Osama Bin Laden. But neither Saul nor Bin Laden were actually doing God's work. They were working for satan.

Paul didn't kill them himself either. He ordered his soldiers to do it.

The Lord called Paul out of that and into the truth. It would be like Osama Bin Laden becoming a Christian. It shocked a lot of people, Jew and gentile alike. Just as Osama Bin Laden would have shocked muslims and Christians alike had he converted.

mohammad MURDERED anyone who wouldn't convert to the lie of his false religion. I can comprehend self defense. That's the way Christians believe. It's the murdering, violent nature of islam toward those who are non islamic and towards ones who are islamic, but simply disagree, that we don't accept.

Why are the muslims once again murdering innocent people because one guy in our country makes a movie that they don't like about the TRUTH of who mohammad really was? Is the TRUTH that offensive to muslims that they must MURDER innocent people? What a wicked, vile, SATANIC religion of death.
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Sep 20 2012 08:20pm
meh

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