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Jun 22 2025 01:32pm
The word "imminent" seems to be doing heavy lifting in much of the discourse I see online, as it's the War Powers Act that's being invoked by people who are supportive or at least permissive of Trump's recent actions. I haven't the slightest what the truth is, but it is interesting to see how much influence Israel is having on Trump's decision making, given Bibi's continued naming of the "imminent" threat of Iran having nuclear weapons that spans decades, while Tulsi says our intelligence had no confirmation of such an imminent development.


The text of the War Powers Act:

(c) Presidential executive power as Commander-in-Chief; limitation

The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.

"Imminent" threat? There was none.
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The text of the War Powers Act:

(c) Presidential executive power as Commander-in-Chief; limitation

The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.

"Imminent" threat? There was none.


Netanyahu/Israel seems to have a differing opinion; although, Iran has been in "imminent" possession of nuclear weapons for decades according to Netanyahu. I suspect that either there is some intelligence information that the public isn't currently privy to about such an imminent development, or Trump is either easily swayed, acted out of Presidential authority and procedure, and/or more conspiratorially is beholden to Israel in some manner.

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Netanyahu/Israel seems to have a differing opinion; although, Iran has been in "imminent" possession of nuclear weapons for decades according to Netanyahu. I suspect that either there is some intelligence information that the public isn't currently privy to about such an imminent development, or Trump is either easily swayed, acted out of Presidential authority and procedure, and/or more conspiratorially is beholden to Israel in some manner.


Imminent threat to Israel maybe. Imminent threat to the US? Not at all.
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The world's Sunni Muslim population has been waging war against the US for years. Iran is Shia Muslim.


Declaring War means that congress has the power to formally declare war against another country. Bombing a foreign nation could be considered be an informal declaration of war.
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You're such a transparent liar

Get better


You must be part of the new, degenerate generation of PaRD if you think Santara is a Democrat. This forum used to be good before people like you came here.

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You must be part of the new, degenerate generation of PaRD if you think Santara is a Democrat. This forum used to be good before people like you came here.


Your worldview is in the dustbin of history where it belongs

If you're having trouble adjusting to the new reality, I recommend psychiatric help
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Your worldview is in the dustbin of history where it belongs

If you're having trouble adjusting to the new reality, I recommend psychiatric help


It's not about the worldview. It's about how people talk about worldviews. My worldview used to be very different from Santara's. I could still have civilized discussions with him. That can't be said about the state of PaRD now. There's barely any real dialogue, and the forum is infested with hacks. Memes have ruined online political discussion.

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It's not about the worldview. It's about how people talk about worldviews. My worldview used to be very different from Santara's. I could still have civilized discussions with him. That can't be said about the state of PaRD now. There's barely any real dialogue, and the forum is infested with hacks. Memes have ruined online political discussion.


There's plenty of dialogue. The difference is that it is dialogue that the old regime censored, because they have no arguments against it. And now you're doing the same, whining, instead of making counter arguments.

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Imminent threat to Israel maybe. Imminent threat to the US? Not at all.


So then why the strike? I ask this not to you directly of course, but out of the desire to know more about how this came to be, especially given the conflicting information from Netanyahu and Tulsi.

It's not about the worldview. It's about how people talk about worldviews. My worldview used to be very different from Santara's. I could still have civilized discussions with him. That can't be said about the state of PaRD now. There's barely any real dialogue, and the forum is infested with hacks. Memes have ruined online political discussion.


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