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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jan 9 2021 10:49am)
Technically speaking, they are not "private" companies. They're publicly traded. Just as most utilities are, and just as most utilities are not "government owned".

From a personal perspective, I don't care. I don't have a social media account. I'm not interested. It is a purely analytical question. When 3.6 billion people use social media to communicate, has it passed beyond the point of something like a forum and into a public commons, therefore becoming a utility, or not? If not, since they're exercising editorial license in attaching things to people's posts, even private posts, should they be treated as a publisher?



You'll have to expand on this. Social media has been under intense scrutiny for a decade, and no concrete decisions have been made that I'm aware of.


They are publicly traded whoooo big point, so is Starbucks. Go in there swearing and when they trespass you flail your arms and yell about your rights you knuckle dragging retard

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And “technically speaking” they ARE private property owned by private citizens.

If a 30 second google search is all it takes to refute your main claim then you’re not worth the energy to reply anymore.

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Courts have upheld as recently as last year that private social media companies are not akin to the modern town square. The most recent that I'm aware of was PragerU vs YouTube, which was decided in YouTube's favor on this exact ground.

This isn't something congress can change with a simple law either, since freedom of speech means you can't be forced to host speech you disagree with it would require a constitutional amendment.


I'm aware of the decision regarding PragerU. I question your analysis of the Congressional argument. Telephone (private) companies cannot ban users from their services based on speech they dislike. The First Amendment does not allow for the suppression of speech in a public commons, merely prevents action to be taken against a person over legal but objectionable speech.

So while the PragerU case is a great example of how it would take an act of Congress, I see no reason why a legal defining of public utility would not remove the ability to ban, editorialize, and remove the posts of users.

Frankly, I'm in favor of open communication. Unless it violates the law. I'd like to see social media allow it. However, I'm fully aware that as it stands, they're NOT a utility, NOR are they a publisher. But they're acting as a publisher, without being held to the legal standards of a publisher. 230 as applies to social media simply allows them to not be responsible for anything, yet they can ban what "they don't like". This is something that's not allowed in any "real life" industry anywhere. It's a concern, do you not agree?
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Jan 9 2021 03:14pm
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I'm aware of the decision regarding PragerU. I question your analysis of the Congressional argument. Telephone (private) companies cannot ban users from their services based on speech they dislike. The First Amendment does not allow for the suppression of speech in a public commons, merely prevents action to be taken against a person over legal but objectionable speech.

So while the PragerU case is a great example of how it would take an act of Congress, I see no reason why a legal defining of public utility would not remove the ability to ban, editorialize, and remove the posts of users.

Frankly, I'm in favor of open communication. Unless it violates the law. I'd like to see social media allow it. However, I'm fully aware that as it stands, they're NOT a utility, NOR are they a publisher. But they're acting as a publisher, without being held to the legal standards of a publisher. 230 as applies to social media simply allows them to not be responsible for anything, yet they can ban what "they don't like". This is something that's not allowed in any "real life" industry anywhere. It's a concern, do you not agree?


Not being forced to host content you don't like is the default, not the rule. Public utilities are an exception and they get benefits in operations in return.

Newspapers don't have to host your content, and have never had to host content they disagreed with. Private message boards are the same. Concert halls don't have to host shows they disagree with. Television stations don't have to host things they disagree with. Etc. etc.

The argument would be to reclassify social media as a public utility, but the problem with that is the definition of "social media" would have to be constructed in such a way that it excludes things like newspapers but includes Twitter, and I'm not convinced that can be done, and if it's too broad it will get struck down, and if it's too narrow it will be easily evaded.
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Jan 9 2021 04:41pm
when you tear out a mans tongue,
you are not proving him a liar,
your only telling the world that your afraid what he might say
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when you tear out a mans tongue,
you are not proving him a liar,
your only telling the world that your afraid what he might say


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idk man
let the whole fucking world burn
as long as no body touches me or emperor trump
to fuckin hell with the rest of them
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goddamn NPCs
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Quote (SuperSpreader @ Jan 9 2021 10:50pm)
goddamn NPCs


listen to the full vid
covid was released on purpose
a biological weapon
to attempt to overthrow the U.S federal government
giving trump the power to take them all down via military
and with the emergency act via trumps 2018 executive order, he has the full right to do so
2. Special forces were mixed with Antifah in D.C the other day and took Nancy Pelosi and other politicans Laptops
its going to be Biblical
https://twitter.com/lyne_ian/status/1348022301346811904






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Quote (darkhead69 @ Jan 9 2021 04:51pm)
listen to the full vid
covid was released on purpose
a biological weapon
to attempt to overthrow the U.S federal government
giving trump the power to take them all down via military
and with the emergency act via trumps 2018 executive order, he has the full right to do so
2. Special forces were mixed with Antifah in D.C the other day and took Nancy Pelosi and other politicans Laptops
its going to be Biblical
https://twitter.com/lyne_ian/status/1348022301346811904




https://i.gyazo.com/cb9e43fd9c2bc647ba876cb37b0977a4.png



Covid is fake not a biological weapon
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