"Have you stopped beating your wife?"

These types of loaded question can really put a politician in a bind, it's better to stop them dead in their tracks before they gain steam. Trump missed this moment back in 2017 when he didnt come up with a satisfying reaction to the Charlottesville rally, or at least not quick enough.

Same story yesterday: Trump had the chance to take the wind out of the sails of this "orange man in bed with white supremacists"-talking point with a forceful disavowal. But as soon as he hesitated, the damage was done, and nothing he said afterwards mattered anymore.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 30 2020 10:11pm

even if you successfully deluded yourself into believing trump himself isn't racist (despite decades of evidence to the contrary, like renter discrimination, central park five comments, birtherism, suggesting a judge couldn't be impartial based on their mexican heritage, his comments about muslims and mexicans, his reaction to charlottesville...) - the important point here is that the racists think he's racist. they support him, and that's why he is asked to disavow them - and repeatedly fails to do so...

Agree with these talking points. But there’s even more than this the recent. “MN you have good genes like the racehorse theory.....
Why are people still trying to say they aren’t really dog whistles. All the dogs have come out? I don’t get the it’s not there camp

Lol... what kind of backwards logic is that.

These stories get traction because time and time again, Trump isn't able to condemn white supremacists, and if he does, he's got to muddy the waters by bringing up other groups as well in a sloppy way. That's what the Charlottesville comments were... a condemnation mixed in with sloppy both sidesism and media criticism that made him look bad.

Trump supporters constantly excuse and justify his poor responses. It would've been very easy for him to unequivocally condemn white supremacists in that moment, and pivot to Biden not condemning antifa by name. He failed.



Saying I'm willing to do something doesn't mean I actually did that something.

This post was edited by IceMage on Oct 1 2020 05:56am

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1311383009212461056

He just can't do it.

Hes done it thirty times. Youre just Willfully ignorant, mentall ill, and fishing for headlines.

Richard Spencer endorsed Joe Biden

It's a recurring tactic that is regularly employed against conservative figures. Romney was made out to be both a sexist and a racist, and he spent an inordinate amount of time explaining how he had "binders full of women" and how much he actually didn't mean the "tough on border" rhetoric that was the staple of his primary fight. It's important in these conversations to seize back the initiative. You can't allow your opponent to frame the debate, or you end up with situations like the below, where Kyle Rittenhouse is tagged as a "white supremacist".

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/attorney-demands-biden-retract-false-accusation-kenosha-shooter-white

Trump's messaging is poor, and now he needs to come up with a solution to a problem of his own making. But he is correct to push back against bothsideism in this. The left is rioting, committing arson, assaulting police, shooting police, and plowing through protesters. The right is not. When conservatives rallied in Virginia in support of the 2nd Amendment, there was much gnashing of teeth by the media establishment, warning us that Armageddon and social violence was right around the corner. Peaceful protests ensued. We are now months into deliberate, orchestrated violence by the left. Time to start calling a spade a spade.



Suffice to say, if I was orchestrating Trump's campaign, he would be winning.

This post was edited by bogie160 on Oct 1 2020 07:55am

I didn't follow politics closely back then, but Romney never(that I know of) displayed racism or sexism. Trump has done so numerous times... he does it all the time. Even if you think Trump is asked about it too often, his waffling is a bad strategy. He could've easily condemned it outright and pivoted, but he's a poor communicator.

Did you watch the video in Biden's tweet or are you just taking the cult's word for it? The video represents him fairly in a political context.

I'm all for Trump making that point about the left... but there's a way to do it. He's totally stuck in the cult bubble and doesn't understand how he comes across to those outside of it.