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Is America sick of all the winning yet??
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Well to the question of "the virus is worse in D run states"
this is obviously in spite of population density. cases per 1 million
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Well to the question of "the virus is worse in D run states"
this is obviously in spite of population density. cases per 1 million
https://i.imgur.com/hBEX14m.png


Cases are the wrong metric. Opening up more and risking higher infections among the young and less at-risk groups is a viable political decision.
The more meaningful metric is deaths per 1m:



Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/


Also note that the availability of high-quality healthcare plays a role. There is no excuse for a wealthy, urbanized state like Massachusetts to have a higher death rate than a rural, destitute shithole like Mississippi with its lacking infrastructure.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 5 2020 05:02am)
Cases are the wrong metric. Opening up more and risking higher infections among the young and less at-risk groups is a viable political decision.
The more meaningful metric is deaths per 1m:

https://i.imgur.com/O5zRETf.jpg

Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/


Also note that the availability of high-quality healthcare plays a role. There is no excuse for a wealthy, urbanized state like Massachusetts to have a higher death rate than a destitute shithole like Mississippi.


I think there is a case to be made for both metrics.
Lack of consistent messaging would be my only thought of how MI can have more case per million that NY.
Cases per million shows where its is being taken seriously or not.. Yes deaths has to do with care received per state.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 5 2020 08:02am)
Cases are the wrong metric. Opening up more and risking higher infections among the young and less at-risk groups is a viable political decision.
The more meaningful metric is deaths per 1m:

https://i.imgur.com/O5zRETf.jpg

Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/


Also note that the availability of high-quality healthcare plays a role. There is no excuse for a wealthy, urbanized state like Massachusetts to have a higher death rate than a rural, destitute shithole like Mississippi with its lacking infrastructure.


Depends on the age of its citizens. The charts from the CDC says 5% of people above 70 or 75 die from it. That is very high.

It's funny because people post the chart the show that the death rate isn't that bad and there is a 5% death rate and one group. I'm wondering if we are seeing the same numbers lol. Or that I'm in healthcare and 5% chance of ending up with a corpse instead of a person at the end of a care episode seems scary to face, and that person is a member if a family i now have to address.

I know when an alcoholic enters delirium tremens they have a 10% chance to die and doctors start freaking out.

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Depends on the age of its citizens. The charts from the CDC says 5% of people above 70 or 75 die from it. That is very high.

It's funny because people post the chart the show that the death rate isn't that bad and there is a 5% death rate and one group. I'm wondering if we are seeing the same numbers lol. Or that I'm in healthcare and 5% chance of ending up with a corpse instead of a person at the end of a care episode seems scary to face, and that person is a member if a family i now have to address.

I know when an alcoholic enters delirium tremens they have a 10% chance to die and doctors start freaking out.


Does the average age vary that much between states in the US, other than Florida being very old and Nevada and Utah being very young? Crossbones made the argument that red states are doing worse than blue states in terms of cases/1m, while I showed that blue states are doing worse in terms of deaths/1m.

Anyway, I agree that a 5% fatality rate is fucking huge for a highly transmissible virus. I just dont think that age variations can explain the variations we're seeing from state to state in terms of death rates.
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I wish you could tab multiple factors on worldometers.. or maybe you can? Would be interesting to see.
Populations>cases>deaths per 1 million.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 5 2020 07:24am)
Does the average age vary that much between states in the US, other than Florida being very old and Nevada and Utah being very young? Crossbones made the argument that red states are doing worse than blue states in terms of cases/1m, while I showed that blue states are doing worse in terms of deaths/1m.

Anyway, I agree that a 5% fatality rate is fucking huge for a highly transmissible virus. I just dont think that age variations can explain the variations we're seeing from state to state in terms of death rates.


Most agree the amount of cases is higher than that is reported, which makes the mortality rate less than what’s reported. I think this effect you can convey to all the states. Still big numbers for something this contagious. NY was ground zero again for this and that’s what happens when it’s left unchecked in communities, especially dense ones. Believe it or not some states have far superior testing abilities than others still which i think better explains the mortality rates from state to state, NY aside who were completely overwhelmed. The statement “nobody died not on a vent, who needed a vent” is a unfortunately a complete lie

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