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Sep 29 2020 10:53pm
Quote (thundercock @ Sep 29 2020 07:32pm)
Man, you guys are so desperate for something to stick lol. Just be happy that if Biden wins, the country will improve dramatically and we'll still have a lot of right wing policies. Imagine if the candidate was Bernie or Warren and you lost. Count your blessings.


Biden is an empty suit.

He will start three foreign wars and hilariously embarrass us before dying and leaving us with Whore Comrade Kamala.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Sep 29 2020 10:53pm
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Biden is an empty suit.

He will start three foreign wars and hilariously embarrass us before dying and leaving us with Whore Comrade Kamala.


seriously? you think biden will embarrass you? what do you think trump did? under his presidency, america has become the laughing stock of the world. everyone is shaking their head in disbelief and disgust how that clown became the most powerful man in your country. you're the florida of the western world...
i know that within your little bubble, trump is a strong and respected (cult) leader, but the rest of the planet begs to differ:

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/09/15/us-image-plummets-internationally-as-most-say-country-has-handled-coronavirus-badly/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/12/us-global-reputation-rock-bottom-donald-trump-coronavirus
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Sep 30 2020 04:49am
Quote (fender @ Sep 30 2020 06:06am)
seriously? you think biden will embarrass you? what do you think trump did? under his presidency, america has become the laughing stock of the world. everyone is shaking their head in disbelief and disgust how that clown became the most powerful man in your country. you're the florida of the western world...
i know that within your little bubble, trump is a strong and respected (cult) leader, but the rest of the planet begs to differ:

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/09/15/us-image-plummets-internationally-as-most-say-country-has-handled-coronavirus-badly/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/12/us-global-reputation-rock-bottom-donald-trump-coronavirus





Well, that's the thing. The rest of the planet doesn't pay taxes to the US. So...we don't really care, what your opinions are. ^^

No offense or anything... just being realistic here.




/e I mean ofc we will listen to other's opinions, but you don't get a vote.

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Sep 30 2020 05:32am
Quote (fender @ Sep 30 2020 06:06am)
seriously? you think biden will embarrass you? what do you think trump did? under his presidency, america has become the laughing stock of the world. everyone is shaking their head in disbelief and disgust how that clown became the most powerful man in your country. you're the florida of the western world...
i know that within your little bubble, trump is a strong and respected (cult) leader, but the rest of the planet begs to differ:

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/09/15/us-image-plummets-internationally-as-most-say-country-has-handled-coronavirus-badly/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/12/us-global-reputation-rock-bottom-donald-trump-coronavirus


The worlds opinion isnt important. You listen to your own opinions and youre falling apart.
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Sep 30 2020 05:39am
Quote (Ghot @ Sep 30 2020 06:49am)
Well, that's the thing. The rest of the planet doesn't pay taxes to the US. So...we don't really care, what your opinions are. ^^

No offense or anything... just being realistic here.




/e I mean ofc we will listen to other's opinions, but you don't get a vote.


If the money we received from other countries was taxes we wouldn't have to pay it back. Right now we are borrowing and going in debt, while billionaires aren't paying taxes and getting tens of millions back in returns, which is the crux of Trump's taxes, as he is just one case study of this phenomenon. It is a funny world you are fighting for, where we the people are paying debts to foreign powers for money they are giving to billionaires as welfare.

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Quote (EndlessSky @ 30 Sep 2020 13:32)
The worlds opinion isnt important. You listen to your own opinions and youre falling apart.


endlesscry: biden will embarrass us!
me: trump single-handedly destroyed your reputation. he made you the laughingstock of the world.
endlesscry: we don't care what the rest of the world thinks.

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Sep 30 2020 08:13am
Quote (fender @ Sep 30 2020 07:48am)
endlesscry: biden will embarrass us!
me: trump single-handedly destroyed your reputation. he made you the laughingstock of the world.
endlesscry: we don't care what the rest of the world thinks.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ea/67/68/ea676813a381a91b80716d446dbcffe7.gif



Pretty much sums up his ability to have a logical train of thought

Quote (Ghot @ Sep 30 2020 05:49am)
Well, that's the thing. The rest of the planet doesn't pay taxes to the US. So...we don't really care, what your opinions are. ^^

No offense or anything... just being realistic here.




/e I mean ofc we will listen to other's opinions, but you don't get a vote.



Do you pay taxes?
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Sep 30 2020 08:27am
Quote (Ghot @ Sep 30 2020 03:49am)
Well, that's the thing. The rest of the planet doesn't pay taxes to the US. So...we don't really care, what your opinions are. ^^

No offense or anything... just being realistic here.




/e I mean ofc we will listen to other's opinions, but you don't get a vote.


really? the president doesn't pay taxes here either.
so we don't care what his opinions are
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Sep 30 2020 10:34am
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Quote (Thor123422 @ 30 Sep 2020 07:52)
I really wish we had more honest coverage from everybody about his refusal to commit to a peaceful transition of power.

He's actively trying to delegitimize the election, basically admitted he's trying to rush Barrett so he can have a favorable person to rule on the supreme court in his ballot objections, and won't say he will peacefully transition.

Trump's other stuff might be dangerous in the long term, where he emboldens white supremacists, but this is the thing he is saying that is truly, 100% dangerous and totally out of step with literally every other politician in the country. It's the thing that if he carries through, can legitimately sink the whole country.



Imho, Trump has neither the cunning nor attention span to actually pull off a complicated plan to stay in power after losing decisively. I also dont think that the courts or the military would stand with him if he is the clear loser of the election and tries to stay in power. The worst scenario I consider somewhat realistic in a legal sense is a repeat of 2000, with ballots in the decisive state being in doubt and the courts ruling in his favor on a muddy, unclear procedural case about recounting.


The most likely outcome I see is that Trump has laid the groundwork to lose the election without losing his face. By creating a huge partisan split on mail voting, it seems inevitable that he will be significantly ahead in most battleground states on election night. Then, the strongly Dem-leaning mail ballots will come in and put Biden ahead, often times by a wide margin. With such an outcome, he can still tell his base that he was winning on election night, that he was cheated out of his victory, that he was right all along when he cautioned against Democratic voter fraud, yada yada. If Biden is ultimately winning by a wide enough margin in the battlegrounds and the EC, these antics wont convince anyone outside of the rabid core of his base, even the non-trumpy conservatives who voted for him will call bullshit on it. If some of his supporters try to start riots, public opinion will turn on them very quickly and very hard.


What could really sink the country is if the outcome is really tight. Say Trump is up 8% in the battlegrounds on election night, then Biden closes the gap with the mail votes. Say in the end, the battlegrounds become a tossup while Biden wins the popular vote by a hefty margin, 3-4%. In such a scenario, neither side would accept the outcome of the election (no matter which way it ultimately goes) as legitimate and the country would go to shit.
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Sep 30 2020 11:23am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 30 2020 09:34am)
Answering here to avoid offtopic:




Imho, Trump has neither the cunning nor attention span to actually pull off a complicated plan to stay in power after losing decisively. I also dont think that the courts or the military would stand with him if he is the clear loser of the election and tries to stay in power. The worst scenario I consider somewhat realistic in a legal sense is a repeat of 2000, with ballots in the decisive state being in doubt and the courts ruling in his favor on a muddy, unclear procedural case about recounting.


The most likely outcome I see is that Trump has laid the groundwork to lose the election without losing his face. By creating a huge partisan split on mail voting, it seems inevitable that he will be significantly ahead in most battleground states on election night. Then, the strongly Dem-leaning mail ballots will come in and put Biden ahead, often times by a wide margin. With such an outcome, he can still tell his base that he was winning on election night, that he was cheated out of his victory, that he was right all along when he cautioned against Democratic voter fraud, yada yada. If Biden is ultimately winning by a wide enough margin in the battlegrounds and the EC, these antics wont convince anyone outside of the rabid core of his base, even the non-trumpy conservatives who voted for him will call bullshit on it. If some of his supporters try to start riots, public opinion will turn on them very quickly and very hard.


What could really sink the country is if the outcome is really tight. Say Trump is up 8% in the battlegrounds on election night, then Biden closes the gap with the mail votes. Say in the end, the battlegrounds become a tossup while Biden wins the popular vote by a hefty margin, 3-4%. In such a scenario, neither side would accept the outcome of the election (no matter which way it ultimately goes) as legitimate and the country would go to shit.


Which is entirely inappropriate and grounds for resignation IMO.
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