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Oct 21 2020 08:06pm
Quote (thundercock @ Oct 21 2020 10:00pm)
How funny would it be if Rudy paid $$ for fake emails?



So desperate rofl
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Oct 21 2020 08:09pm
As to who would fake thousands of emails?
Ukrainians are desperate for cash and have nothing but time on their hands.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Oct 21 2020 07:06pm)
So desperate rofl


They really are, right? I mean, Rudy is a big fucking idiot and I have no idea why Trump hasn't gotten rid of him. Once the Ukraine scandal broke, Trump should have eviscerated Rudy and thrown him under the bus.
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As to who would fake thousands of emails?
Ukrainians are desperate for cash and have nothing but time on their hands.


Political disinformation is the biggest past time in Ukraine right now.

https://time.com/5902557/hunter-biden-rudy-giuliani-ukraine/

Pretty good article about all this.

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Quote (IceMage @ 22 Oct 2020 03:47)
Probably worth mentioning that there's no good reason to take Hunter Biden's word as gospel, either in the emails or text messages. When he says "dad takes half my income", that sounds like horseshit. Sure, it's some sort of evidence, but it needs to be corroborated.


Agreed.

Another possibility is that Joe did keep 50% of Hunter's income for some limited timeframe after Hunter had went through rehab and was in the process of getting his life back together again with some job that daddy arranged for him. Think of how Britney Spears' father took over her finances when she went off the rails. From the limited info we have on Hunter's personality, it would fit right in if he was still pissed off, whiney and passive aggressive about this episode, even years later.

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They really are, right? I mean, Rudy is a big fucking idiot and I have no idea why Trump hasn't gotten rid of him. Once the Ukraine scandal broke, Trump should have eviscerated Rudy and thrown him under the bus.


You sound upset.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Oct 21 2020 07:11pm)
You sound upset.


Why would I be upset?
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Oct 22 2020 12:22am
looks like a british comedian, playing a kazakh journalist, just completely killed this story, and put the spotlight on rudy giuliani, who seemed to be projecting hard with that whole pedo angle, lol.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/rudy-giuliani-denies-inappropriate-behavior-allegations-borat-1079284/
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Oct 22 2020 03:22am
A statement from someone on the email chain and involved in the corrupt chinese business. This is pretty damning:

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My name is Tony Bobulinski. The facts set forth below are true and accurate; they are not any form of domestic or foreign disinformation. Any suggestion to the contrary is false and offensive. I am the recipient of the email published seven days ago by the New York Post which showed a copy to Hunter Biden and Rob Walker. That email is genuine.

This afternoon I received a request from the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs and the Senate Committee on Finance requesting all documents relating to my business affairs with the Biden family as well as various foreign entities and individuals. I have extensive relevant records and communications and I intend to produce those items to both Committees in the immediate future.

I am the grandson of a 37 year Army Intelligence officer, the son of a 20+ year career Naval Officer and the brother of a 28 year career Naval Flight Officer. I myself served our country for 4 years and left the Navy as LT Bobulinski. I held a high level security clearance and was an instructor and then CTO for Naval Nuclear Power Training Command. I take great pride in the time my family and I served this country. I am also not a political person. What few campaign contributions I have made in my life were to Democrats.

If the media and big tech companies had done their jobs over the past several weeks I would be irrelevant in this story. Given my long standing service and devotion to this great country, I could no longer allow my family’s name to be associated or tied to Russian disinformation or implied lies and false narratives dominating the media right now.

After leaving the military I became an institutional investor investing extensively around the world and on every continent. I have traveled to over 50 countries. I believe, hands down, we live in the greatest country in the world.

What I am outlining is fact. I know it is fact because I lived it. I am the CEO of Sinohawk Holdings which was a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family. I was brought into the company to be the CEO by James Gilliar and Hunter Biden. The reference to “the Big Guy” in the much publicized May 13, 2017 email is in fact a reference to Joe Biden. The other “JB” referenced in that email is Jim Biden, Joe’s brother.

Hunter Biden called his dad ‘the Big Guy’ or ‘my Chairman,’ and frequently referenced asking him for his sign-off or advice on various potential deals that we were discussing. I’ve seen Vice President Biden saying he never talked to Hunter about his business. I’ve seen firsthand that that’s not true, because it wasn’t just Hunter’s business, they said they were putting the Biden family name and its legacy on the line.

I realized the Chinese were not really focused on a healthy financial ROI. They were looking at this as a political or influence investment. Once I realized that Hunter wanted to use the company as his personal piggy bank by just taking money out of it as soon as it came from the Chinese, I took steps to prevent that from happening.

The Johnson Report connected some dots in a way that shocked me — it made me realize the Bidens had gone behind my back and gotten paid millions of dollars by the Chinese, even though they told me they hadn’t and wouldn’t do that to their partners.

I would ask the Biden family to address the American people and outline the facts so I can go back to being irrelevant — and so I am not put in a position to have to answer those questions for them.

I don’t have a political ax to grind; I just saw behind the Biden curtain and I grew concerned with what I saw. The Biden family aggressively leveraged the Biden family name to make millions of dollars from foreign entities even though some were from communist controlled China.

God Bless America!!!!

This post was edited by Goomshill on Oct 22 2020 03:27am
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Oct 22 2020 03:36am
So TLDR:

A business partner / witness / email recipient is on the record and confirms
  • The emails are real
  • Joe Biden was directly involved and lied about it
  • Joe Biden is "the big guy" getting a cut
  • The Chinese were using it to pay bribe money / buy influence
  • Hunter/Joe Biden went behind their partners backs to take the Chinese bribes
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