Quote (Eti_fr @ Sep 30 2013 01:00pm)

Where do you see any anger in my posts? I do not see a therapist and do not need to see any.

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 30 Sep 2013 18:09)

...yes , you do . You are overly obsessed with this topic and become very defensive when challenged about its impact and credibility . You fail to grasp that no one is even remotely interested in what , almost to a man . we consider utter rubbish yet you keep bumping it and making new threads about it on other sub-forums . You are obsessed with it and that is not healthy .

Quote (scarra @ Sep 30 2013 01:31pm)

How is this thing not closed?

Quote (Impose @ 30 Sep 2013 19:17)

If you are so enlightened then why do you not accept challenges to your point of view with reasonable discussion?

Quote (Eti_fr @ Sep 30 2013 05:22pm)

The point is there is nothing to challenge "that which is" does not change no matter what you think/believe.
I am not talking about beliefs, but truth the evidence supports, truth you can check for yourself in life itself.
The other point is my job is just to show you the door, you have to walk through it. If you do not care enough about the truth to check what it is I cannot do anything for you.
I am not trying to convince anyone, even if it could look this way on my first posts. I did not understood this very well at the beginning, but now I do.
I am just trying to find people who are ready to overcome cognitive dissonance and face the truth.
Maybe it is hopeless, but it doesn't take much of my time and I am not attached to the result of what I do anyway. It is not in my control, I can only do my best to plant seeds, then it's in God/life control if they grow or not.
I am not trying to control life, I let that to people like Widow... I'm too lazy for that

Quote (Eti_fr @ Sep 30 2013 02:22pm)

The point is there is nothing to challenge "that which is" does not change no matter what you think/believe.
I am not talking about beliefs, but truth the evidence supports, truth you can check for yourself in life itself.
The other point is my job is just to show you the door, you have to walk through it. If you do not care enough about the truth to check what it is I cannot do anything for you.
I am not trying to convince anyone, even if it could look this way on my first posts. I did not understood this very well at the beginning, but now I do.
I am just trying to find people who are ready to overcome cognitive dissonance and face the truth.
Maybe it is hopeless, but it doesn't take much of my time and I am not attached to the result of what I do anyway. It is not in my control, I can only do my best to plant seeds, then it's in God/life control if they grow or not.
I am not trying to control life, I let that to people like Widow... I'm too lazy for that

Quote (Eti_fr @ Nov 5 2012 05:39pm)

Hello,

If you are a truth seeker, you will like this book : The Present (with religion) http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-with-religion/

I can't explain it better than the autor so I'll quote him :



If you do not like religions, there is a version of this book without any reference to religion : http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-universal-truth/

I do not want to debate about truth, this is not the purpose of this thread... There is actually nothing to debate about (2+2=4 no matter what you think), the purpose of this thread is to share truthful things I found (or you found).
So, on this thread I will mostly post quotes from The Present (with or without religion), or interresting (truthful) music/videos/quotes (from other sources) that I find.
If you also have some truthful things to share, it is open of course.

Just to be clear, the question is not do I (Eti_fr), or the autor of The Present know the truth.
The question is do YOU know the truth ?
If you do, I do not have anything to learn to you, because that would mean you are more aware of the truth/life than me (I do not know the truth).
If you do not, do YOU want to know the truth, to face reality ?
If you do, I know you will like those books I linked you.
If you do not --> ok, it is not a big deal, most human beings do not want to face reality yet, I do not judge anyone... Just try to keep this thread clean so I do not have to repost again and again (I will).

I will not debate about the result of 2+2 in this thread, you are free to open your own thread (and pm me link) if you want, I will be happy to answer your question there.
Anything that is not a constructive post to help people learn the truth will be considered as free bump, I will not answer these posts anymore on this thread.
If you have any question, pm me, I always make sure I have room in my pm box... and answer as soon as I have time.

The purpose of this thread is to help people to get up, stand up and unite... and fight the lies and illusions with truth as weapon... nothing more.

Just to be clear, the truth contest (where I found these books) is not a religion.
I post in Political And Religious Discussion, because The Present (with religion) explains how religions are currently divided and each religion interpret his holy book in a bad way, and it proposes an interpretation that could unite religions... and whole mankind.
You may ask yourself why I post this here if it is not subject to debate ?
Well as I said it is open, if you have anything that could help me and any truth seeker to learn new things about truth/life/the present you are more than welcome to post here.