What? I’ve worked with MANY illegal immigrants and they DO NOT pay into any of that. We aren’t going to deport legal ones.

Yeah, driving wages down is such a boon to the economy. Let's say some of them pay taxes; how much do they cost in return?

Illegal immigrants are a significant net fiscal drain -- paying less in taxes than they use in public services. The primary reason they create more in costs than they pay in taxes is their relative low levels of education. Based on prior research, 69 percent of adult illegal immigrants have no education beyond high school, compared to 35 percent of the U.S.-born. As a result, they tend to earn modest wages and make modest tax contributions even when income and payroll taxes are taken out of their pay. This fact, coupled with the relatively heavy demands they make on public coffers -- especially for education, health care, and means-tested programs -- is the reason they are a net fiscal drain. We estimate that 59 percent of illegal immigrant households use one or more major welfare programs, costing roughly $42 billion a year. At the local level, the largest single cost is for public education. We estimate the cost of educating the children of illegal immigrants, most of whom are U.S.-born, totals $69 billion per year. While illegal immigrants often receive other services for their U.S.-born children, even when we estimate the net fiscal impact of just the illegal immigrants themselves, excluding their U.S.-born children, we still find they create a lifetime net fiscal drain of $68,000 on average (taxes paid minus benefits received).
Even though illegal immigrants are net fiscal drains, they do pay a significant amount in taxes. We estimate illegal immigrants pay $25.9 billion a year to the federal government. Unfortunately, their tax contributions do not cover their consumption of public services.
https://budget.house.gov/download/the-cost-of-illegal-immigration-to-taxpayers

Based on a 2017 study

classic racist Democrats showing their true colors after losing:



found it.

This post was edited by Dmitriy on Nov 6 2024 05:39pm

From my perspective:

1) It will increase the labour market participation rate by opening up millions of jobs for unskilled residents & citizens - who pay taxes

2) It drastically increases the work opportunities for largely young unemployed Americans, who are currently tax consuming as distinct from tax generating

3) Illegals may pay some taxes, but they pay less taxes than a legal citizen or resident does. Therefore, if illegally occupied positions are repopulated with legal ones, tax revenue increases

4) Illegals themselves are a massive tax drain, largely because of Biden administration policy of free cellphones, free food, and free luxury accommodation

I'm not a libertarian at all, I support legal workers being paid fairly over the table as opposed to illegal workers being paid unfairly under the table (the libertarian position)

/e not to mention the obvious one, wages will be driven up instead of down, again increasing tax revenue

This post was edited by El1te on Nov 6 2024 05:46pm

this is a lie that is perpetuated ad-nauseam by conservatives but is demonstrably false

its not, posted facts about illegals being a net fiscal drain due to overconsumption of services (free stuff)

This post was edited by El1te on Nov 6 2024 05:50pm

Yeah... and Congress never lies. :/




This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 6 2024 06:08pm

One net benefit to American citizens, homeless, struggling veterans, young generation of lower class - Millions of potential residential residences would become available. The sudden supply of homes could alleviate the absurd costs of the housing market. A whole generation of young Americans would be better able to achieve home ownership when macro supply bolstered. Not just Americans with silver spoon upbringing, or those qualifying for social programs. The actual working class.

Mass deportations sounds pretty dumb at face value though, Just shut the door, stop the wound from bleeding., then we can start the recovery. Have no tolerance for crime from illegals, but dumb to seek them out