You haven't proven shit. You merely opined about how people like me are unreasonable.

Automation and corporate profit are secondary until we've decided upon what sort of society we want to see. Do we want a government that sees fewer people as inherently preferable? To me, no. Do we want a government run by luddites obsessed with stifling innovation? I say no. Then we can figure out how to shape our policies around automation and whatever else to support those goals. You've done some version of that here. Automation and corporate profit are only important insofar as you anticipate how they'll shape society in a way you do or do not like.

I really dislike the moniker "culture war", because it trivializes how important culture is, and how essential it is that we ensure that structural factors (e.g. the economy) are setup to support it.

people who ignore all historical evidence, in order to dismiss facts they don't like, are unreasonable - by definition, not opinion.

i, like most germans of my generation, visited concentration and death camps. i've listened to interviews of eye witnesses and victims, family members and perpetrators, i've seen historical records of the industrialised murdering of millions of people, i've seen photos of those unspeakable atrocities - have you? what evidence do YOU base your denial of the holocaust on? oh right, none whatsoever, just the mad ramblings and conspiracies of your fellow anti-semites.

You are unreasonable and you dont know what evidence is.

Well said 👏

That machine is already too far on course to change. society can't stop it no matter what we decide, whether we watch Wall-E and think being fatties is good or bad. whether we watch Ready Player 1 and think that's good or bad. neither matter. we're too far into this to stop now, especially in a country that can only operate on incremental change. we can't turn the ship fast enough to avoid the rocks, all we can do is get as many lifeboats ready as possible.

we as a society, rightfully, built our country around capitalism and the stock market. neither one of those have a brake pedal, and even the gas pedal has only 1 option, floor it. the market will demand cheaper goods, cheaper goods are provided by automation, automation creates more poor people, more poor people demand cheaper goods. We cannot get out. A shadow moves in the dark.

the longer we take to aggressively tax corporate America to build our own safety net the more likely it looks that they'll be our only savior. and they're driving towards a cliff they know is there, but anyone who tries to stop is replaced by their board of directors.

"but we'll make new jobs" is the lie anyone opposed to this message has eaten whole, and they in turn will see in due course. we cant avoid it, we can only prepare. instead deluding ourselves into thinking that debating gender pronouns prepare us for this is insanity. i dont have to worry, nor do my children or grand children. it is all of you that are doomed, unless private land ownership is outlawed, then we're fucked too.

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Motherfuckers using Anne Frank's diary to disprove the Holocaust need to read Hans Frank's diary instead.

I don't dismiss facts. I debate facts. Sorry this bothers you so much.



All that shit you listed is second-hand knowledge. The fact is you never saw the holocaust happen with your own eyes.

Hahahahha you debate facts? Facts are facts for a reason.
But in your little head things are only real if you see them with your eyes?

God you are unreasonable

which arguments do you have to debate facts? i have countless historical sources, including eye witnesses, perpetrators, photos, records... what can you present? oh right, the debunked conspiracies of anti-semites. you're not a reasonable person.