The UN is notoriously anti-Israel when we compare against the other nations present.

I'm still waiting for some rational argument here. Are you just another person who dislikes Israel for what they get away with? I don't see a strategic argument here.

Are you asking if i'm Anti-genocide? yes. i am not on the side of genocide, even if the perpetrators were the victims of genocide when my grandpa was in middle school.

Dude, I was not asking that at all. I'm asking for a strategic argument for the US in favor of whatever you are proposing.

This post was edited by IceMage on Dec 1 2022 01:26pm

i dont think there is a strategic argument inherently, but i'd add that a reduction in support won't have devastating results. and therefore for humanitarian reasons, in the face of potential strategic loss on a nominal scale, we should at least try it.

doing the right thing with very little cost is a good idea. what's israel going to do? run to Putin?

This post was edited by thesnipa on Dec 1 2022 01:40pm

Reduction in our support in the Middle East to our most valuable ally won't have results that concern you?

What's the point?

correct, that's the whole point of my thread. that Israel in it's current state doesn't really face an existential crisis. specifically i started talking about Palestine, and have come to a place where i dont really think anyone is going to fuck with them if we give them 50-75% of what we give them now implemented over time.

what's the point? see post # 72

Puppet masters don't ask puppets for helps.

Even if the US didn't care about the future of Israel at all, it makes zero sense to abandon them. And giving them the opportunity to turn to Russia or China might keep the American libertarians happy, but it's no way for a serious American to conduct foreign policy.

This post was edited by IceMage on Dec 1 2022 01:48pm

The whole point of US foreign policy, separated from the winds of political sway, is America has influence, and we should maintain that influence as long as the costs are not greater than the benefits. Ceding Israel to Russia or China is giving over our influence to more malign powers.

Might want to look into who all is in their cabinets and advisory boards.
Hint: communism=bolshevism=judaism