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Nov 11 2022 10:14pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 11 2022 11:12pm)
Post #65.

You said, "Racism is wrong, there is not excuse."

I am still waiting for your explanation.


you are just too racist for me to talk down,.
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Nov 11 2022 10:16pm
Quote (Mondain @ Nov 11 2022 08:14pm)
you are just too racist for me to talk down,.


It's ok that you have no response.
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Nov 11 2022 10:29pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 12 2022 12:16am)
It's ok that you have no response.


I think it's wrong because it's just not accurate in my experience, I don't think it makes someone evil to be racist but I do think being racist is just ignorance of the race you feel that way towards.

Do you view other races as completely inferior to yours, or do you just not like some? Just curious

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Nov 12 2022 08:59am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 11 2022 08:29pm)
I think it's wrong because it's just not accurate in my experience, I don't think it makes someone evil to be racist but I do think being racist is just ignorance of the race you feel that way towards.

Do you view other races as completely inferior to yours, or do you just not like some? Just curious


It's not about other races being inferior to mine. I am not even white.

To me, racism is simply human nature. It is human nature to be attracted to all that is beautiful and pleasing to the eyes. And it is human nature to give preferential treatment to an attractive human. And white people are more attractive.

Like, I am attracted to white guys because of their good looks. I want to give them preferential treatment whenever possible. If I am the owner of a business, I will want to hire them over a black person. When socializing, I want to talk to them over an Asian. When dating, I only want to date them to the exclusion of everybody else. This is racist, it's discriminatory, yet it feels like the most natural thing in the world. I don't feel bad about having a preference for white guys.

People are currently unable to freely discriminate, I think this is wrong. Discrimination, racism..etc are natural human impulses.

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It's not about other races being inferior to mine. I am not even white.

To me, racism is simply human nature. It is human nature to be attracted to all that is beautiful and pleasing to the eyes. And it is human nature to give preferential treatment to an attractive human. And white people are more attractive.

Like, I am attracted to white guys because of their good looks. I want to give them preferential treatment whenever possible. If I am the owner of a business, I will want to hire them over a black person. When socializing, I want to talk to them over an Asian. When dating, I only want to date them to the exclusion of everybody else. This is racist, it's discriminatory, yet it feels like the most natural thing in the world. I don't feel bad about preferring a group of humans over some other group.

People are currently unable to freely discriminate, I think this is wrong. Discrimination, racism..etc are natural human impulses.


I wouldnt really consider that being racist so much as just being attracted to a certain race over others, I think it's completely natural to be attracted to certain races the same way some people are attracted to blondes/brunettes fat/skinny etc.

If you treat other races poorly because you aren't attracted to them I would consider that racist, but if you treat them like regular people you just aren't attracted to I don't see it as an issue. I suppose today that view would be labeled racist but I think the word gets tossed around too easily.

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Nov 12 2022 09:23am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 12 2022 07:16am)
I wouldnt really consider that being racist so much as just being attracted to a certain race over others, I think it's completely natural to be attracted to certain races the same way some people are attracted to blondes/brunettes fat/skinny etc.


If you treat other races poorly because you aren't attracted to them I would consider that racist, but if you treat them like regular people you just aren't attracted to I don't see it as an issue. I suppose today that view would be labeled racist but I think the word gets tossed around too easily.


It depends on what you mean by "treating poorly". Is not wanting to live with minorities "treating them poorly"? Is not wanting to be friends with minorities "treating them poorly"? Is not wanting to hire minorities "treating them poorly"? What about not wanting to do business with them? Not wanting to sit next to them on a bus?

If you ask me, all of these things are not in the realm of poor treatment. White people are under no obligation to embrace minorities. As long as white people don't kill, maim, rob..etc minorities, I say they have done nothing wrong.
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Nov 12 2022 09:42am
Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 12 2022 11:23am)
It depends on what you mean by "treating poorly". Is not wanting to live with minorities "treating them poorly"? Is not wanting to be friends with minorities "treating them poorly"? Is not wanting to hire minorities "treating them poorly"? What about not wanting to do business with them? Not wanting to sit next to them on a bus?

If you ask me, all of these things are not in the realm of poor treatment. White people are under no obligation to embrace minorities. As long as white people don't kill, maim, rob..etc minorities, I say they have done nothing wrong.


I think it depends on how you act in those situations really, I dont think it's wrong to feel that way, but I think it speaks to your character if you can be polite and respectful to anyone you encounter, at least until given a good reason not to.

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Nov 12 2022 10:01am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 12 2022 07:42am)
I think it depends on how you act in those situations really, I dont think it's wrong to feel that way, but I think it speaks to your character if you can be polite and respectful to anyone you encounter, at least until given a good reason not to.


But real world is consisted of way more than encountering some random minority. Like I stated earlier, there is dating. There is a businesses deciding who to hire. People deciding on who they want as their neighbor. People deciding who they want as friends...etc etc. In all of these situations, white people have to make difficult choices. And white people are charged with racism if they choose not to embrace minorities. This is wrong.

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Nov 12 2022 10:18am
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But real world is consisted of way more than encountering some random minority. Like I stated earlier, there is dating. There is a businesses deciding who to hire. People deciding on who they want as their neighbor. People deciding who they want as friends...etc etc. In all of these situations, white people have to make difficult choices. And white people are charged with racism if they choose not to embrace minorities. This is wrong.


Right but you can still be respectful in those situations. Like for example say I own a restaurant and I only want to hire pretty waitresses. If an ugly woman came in to apply I wouldn't say "no way, you're ugly go away" I would take her application, thank her and just not hire her. Does that make sense? Like yes I am discriminating against her for not being pretty by not hiring but I am not trying to hurt her feelings in the process.

People can associate themselves with whoever they want, but intentionally being mean or causing harm to someone for a physical characteristic is wrong in my opinion.
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Nov 12 2022 10:20am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 12 2022 08:18am)
Right but you can still be respectful in those situations. Like for example say I own a restaurant and I only want to hire pretty waitresses. If an ugly woman came in to apply I wouldn't say "no way, you're ugly go away" I would take her application, thank her and just not hire her. Does that make sense? Like yes I am discriminating against her for not being pretty by not hiring but I am not trying to hurt her feelings in the process.

People can associate themselves with whoever they want, but intentionally being mean or causing harm to someone for a physical characteristic is wrong in my opinion.


It's fine for you to not want to be mean to a minority, however if some white person wants to do that, they should be allowed to.
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