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Oct 28 2022 11:56am
Quote (SlamFkingDunk @ Oct 28 2022 12:06pm)
then you should say you want neither to win

which isn't your answer lol


We don't live in a fantasy land where the seat goes empty. What is this response even?

Quote (bogie160 @ Oct 28 2022 12:25pm)
Of course, he shilled garbage for money.

That being said, he's clearly more intelligent than Fetterman pre-stroke, and Fetterman's career as an unemployed bum / disastrous civil servant is similarly disqualifying even without considering that he no longer understands what's being said.

Between the two, we should probably default to intelligence and elect the shill. At least his money is already made.


"his money is already made" - what an incredibly stupid thing to say. His "money was made" when he was a surgeon. Then he sold out to make even more. Now he's running for senate to set himself up with connections to make even more for himself and his family.

Since when has somebody like Oz ever said "that's enough, I'm done accumulating wealth and power now". As a Catholic you should honestly be ashamed to have said this.
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Oct 28 2022 11:59am
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We don't live in a fantasy land where the seat goes empty. What is this response even?



"his money is already made" - what an incredibly stupid thing to say. His "money was made" when he was a surgeon. Then he sold out to make even more. Now he's running for senate to set himself up with connections to make even more for himself and his family.

Since when has somebody like Oz ever said "that's enough, I'm done accumulating wealth and power now". As a Catholic you should honestly be ashamed to have said this.


I do not want the brain damaged useless person to have any power

it's just that simple, I believe oz is the lesser of two evils
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Oct 28 2022 12:04pm
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I do not want the brain damaged useless person to have any power

it's just that simple, I believe oz is the lesser of two evils


And I'd rather have somebody who is ineffective than somebody who is malicious and effective.

It doesn't seem like you've really thought through your position. Oz is bad but effective. That's actually worse than being bad but ineffective.
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And I'd rather have somebody who is ineffective than somebody who is malicious and effective.

It doesn't seem like you've really thought through your position. Oz is bad but effective. That's actually worse than being bad but ineffective.


but they are both bad.. and so I have to default to who actually can function in his role

which I don't think fettermen can
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Oct 28 2022 12:06pm
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but they are both bad.. and so I have to default to who actually can function in his role

which I don't think fettermen can


oz is a foreign agent, he shouldnt even be qualified, therefore, your concerns would also extend to him. how can he function in a role of US senator while he holds citizenship and title and is a registered voter in another country?

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Oct 28 2022 12:07pm
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oz is a foreign agent, he shouldnt even be qualified, therefore, your concerns would also extend to him. how can he function in a role while he holds and operates as a citizen and registered agent in another country?


haha

wasn't he willing to get rid of his dual citizen ship

as it was explained to me he had it because of his mother with dementia who lived there?
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Oct 28 2022 12:10pm
Quote (SlamFkingDunk @ Oct 28 2022 02:07pm)
haha

wasn't he willing to get rid of his dual citizen ship

as it was explained to me he had it because of his mother with dementia who lived there?


i was editing my post as i used the word foreign agent instead of foreign voter.

what he does vs what he says are two different things and trump muddled those lines immensely. there is no reason to believe that oz won't do the same and because there is zero accountability for anyone in congress, whose going to care? there have been serving candidates who have gone through similar situations as fetterman. he will have aides and a team with him.

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Oct 28 2022 12:11pm
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oz is a foreign agent, he shouldnt even be qualified, therefore, your concerns would also extend to him. how can he function in a role of US senator while he holds citizenship and title and is a registered agent in another country?



He holds a double citizenship like a lot of senators, but he was still born in the US … how is that such an issue?

Quote (SlamFkingDunk @ Oct 28 2022 02:05pm)
but they are both bad.. and so I have to default to who actually can function in his role

which I don't think fettermen can



I think what he means is that he’d rather have an "empty seat" by having Fetterman than someone who’ll actively be a negative driving force.

Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 28 2022 01:31pm)
Dr Phil is a shitbag who exploits people to get views. some legendary dude who filmed bumfights and posted them online was invited on so Dr Phil could confront him about exploiting people, the dude shaved the middle of his hair off and bought a suit like Phil wears and showed up to confront Phil in return for doing the same thing.


That video was an absolute gem.

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We don't live in a fantasy land where the seat goes empty. What is this response even?



"his money is already made" - what an incredibly stupid thing to say. His "money was made" when he was a surgeon. Then he sold out to make even more. Now he's running for senate to set himself up with connections to make even more for himself and his family.

Since when has somebody like Oz ever said "that's enough, I'm done accumulating wealth and power now". As a Catholic you should honestly be ashamed to have said this.


As a surgeon, he would be worth low 7-figures. He's worth low 9-figures as a shill. That's a lot of money. Anything he gets out of politics won't compare to that, he wants the power and prestige.

The counterpart to this race is what's going on in Georgia. Walker is clearly mentally challenged. Probably the CTE, but it really doesn't matter. We have to consider that the right choice might be Warnock, his awful positions non-withstanding.
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Oct 28 2022 12:15pm
Quote (SlamFkingDunk @ Oct 28 2022 01:05pm)
but they are both bad.. and so I have to default to who actually can function in his role

which I don't think fettermen can


Why would you want somebody bad to be functional? That means they take things in the opposite direction you want
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