And let me guess, "law abiding citizens" are defined as people who don't object to left-leaning policies, right?

I bet you are one of those people who think political dissenters need to be crushed ruthlessly for being "troublemakers".



If you did "hire" Biden in the traditional sense of this word, then in theory you should be able to tell him what to do, just like the boss that you are. But we both know that if he ever does things you don't like, there is nothing you can do besides writing him a few angry letters. You make me laugh. And no, voting him out of office is not the grand act of firing that you think it is. It simply means your old "servant" is replaced by a new "servant" who will continue to not do anything you ask.



Do your politicians make laws that you must obey? If yes, then you have overlords. The technical fact that they are voted in does not change the fact they have complete and utter control over literally every facet of your life. And it doen't matter that YOU THINK your politicians aren't a higher status level than you are. What you think or don't think doesn't matter at all because the power dynamic I just described is real, observable, and born out by reality. Your politicians can and do tell you what to do. The opposite doesn't happen.



You hate Republicans and you are hugely biased against them. No wonder you say the things you do.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Aug 17 2022 03:48pm

Why do you people lie through your teeth? I never said that.



Well you would have lost that bet.




I don't even know what you are talking about. I took a government class in high school that explained how the government works to me, did you?



Laws do not force people to comply with them, they dictate punishment for people who violate them. If you don't know what a law is then we are going to have some serious trouble having an intelligent conversation. Also, most bills that become laws do not originate from elected politicians at all.



Look I don't hate anybody and I think you should stop listening to who ever is lying to you and spend some time learning about things like how the government and how laws work.

Ok. So how do you define "law abiding citizens"?



School classes teach you how governments should work. They don't teach you how they actually work.



We aren't talking about laws. We are talking about politicians having total control over our lives. Why did you try and change the topic.



We aren't talking about laws. We are talking about politicians being your overlords. Do not try to change the topic.

Again, I will ask you. Do you think you can tell your politicians what to do? If your politicians pass laws you don't like, do you have any real recourse? I rest my case.



I don't think you get to lecture me on anything when you honestly believe you hired Biden. I mean, lol.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Aug 17 2022 04:16pm

simply by talking about him, you're supporting him.

The definition isn't controversial.

People who are following the law.



So the answer is no? You did not take a high school government or civics class?



I don't know what you're talking about to be totally honest. The United States is a free country and politicians have basically zero control over our lives compared to other countries and societies.



I certainly can participate in a process to determine what the laws are and I absolutely have legal recourse to fight laws that are unconstitutional, absolutely yes. If they pass laws that are bad I can certainly work with an organization like a PAC in the effort to try to get the law repealed. These types of processes go on all the time in the US and I'm surprised you have not heard of them.



Well you don't strike me as being the kind of person that likes learning much about anything.

lol fukn eh?
ketchup popsicle head ya that wut it means

As long as Biden doesn't write laws to target political dissenters, people who hate feds, people who have no faith in the government, people who doubt official narratives, or just troublemakers in general, then I have no issues.



This thread isn't about me or whether I took a civics class. Its about you being naive enough to believe that you actually "hired" Biden and that politicians are your servants, lol. You also think school textbooks describe how the real world works, lol.



If you truly believe politicians have basically zero control over your lives then you probably live in a state where the ruling party is the one you are ideologically aligned with, and you simply agree with the laws they pass. You don't notice that these laws are actually very draconian.



There is a reason I said "real" recourse. The things you mention technically exist and are available to citizens, however these processes are either too onerous or time-consuming or just generally too difficult to navigate through for an ordinary citizen.

I mean, have you actually worked with a PAC to get a law repealed? How long did it take and how easy was it?


Lmao, tears.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Aug 17 2022 04:51pm

He's doing the job exactly the way I hoped he would.



That's not true. You're really striking out here. I hope you don't take up gambling because if your guesses are as bad as the ones you made here, then you're going to go broke fast.

Please stop listening to people who just lie to you in an attempt to convince to who to vote for.

At the end of the day I truly don't care about who you vote for, but you've been seriously victimized by misinformation.

You really should try to identify what that source is and then go through the process of fact checking everything they said to you, so that for your own information you know what the truth is.



Well, at some point in your life, you may realize that you want to work towards a better society for future generations to live in. I did and although I agree that they are difficult processes, I'm not sure that I would want them to be easy processes either, because then the laws would just wildly shift back and forth every election.



Yes, it's not easy, and we're still working on it.

This post was edited by mki on Aug 17 2022 05:04pm

You actually brought up a very good point that made me think. Namely, the proceses being difficult enough so that laws don't shift back and forth easily.