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Aug 1 2022 01:18pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 1 Aug 2022 20:09)
1. The 27 was meant to be obviously hyperbolic, perhaps i should have said 127.

2. you should, trans people are MORE prone to anxiety and depression, fighting the stigma of the more common mental illnesses can only help trans people.

3. if its not a matter of further stigmatizing then why is there such a passionate battle to not be referred to as mentally ill? there's clearly an emotionally charged kneejerk reaction. being trans is more than just being mentally ill, but being mentally ill doesnt mean there's also a cure out there. that cuts both ways, going to a therapist wont make a trans person happy with their gender magically like the right wants, and going to therapy wont make many trans people magically happy if they transition either.


It's about treatment not stigmatisation. The treatments for mental illness and a developmental disorder are different. It's practicality and, ofc, truth - which I recognise the right doesn't care about in the least but someone has to.
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Aug 1 2022 01:23pm
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Aug 1 2022 07:05pm)
Being trans isn't a mental illness. It's generally regarded (correctly in my view) as a disorder of sexual development. One that can come with comorbid mental illness. Just like basically any disorder. But being trans, in and of itself, is not a mental illness.

Dysphoria could be classified as mental illness but I personally think it is perfectly normal distress caused by the disorder. Do you have a mental illness if you're disgusted if you suddenly grow breasts? Nah. It can lead to mental illness (depression, anxiety etc) but I wouldn't describe the disgust you feel at the body you no longer like as being a mental illness.

So it's not a strawman. Both the pro-trans left and most medical institutions regard transness in this fashion.

Frankly the right could use a slightly better understanding of mental illness given how much untreated mental illness we see among their number. Especially the more online, dissident right types.


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Aug 1 2022 01:24pm
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Aug 1 2022 02:18pm)
It's about treatment not stigmatisation. The treatments for mental illness and a developmental disorder are different. It's practicality and, ofc, truth - which I recognise the right doesn't care about in the least but someone has to.


so, and correct me if i'm wrong, you dont want to call it mental illness because rather than going to a therapist who deals with mental illness generally it requires a specific therapist who deals with a specific kind of mental illness developmental disorder?

along the same line the treatment for all kinds of mental illnesses vary wildly. some people just need an ear to listen to them, some need incredibly intense exposure therapy, some cant change regardless and treatment is just mitigation of the worst outcomes.
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Aug 1 2022 03:19pm
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Jul 31 2022 08:23pm)
Lol. Why did we both come back around the same time?

Weird.

Clearly gay Jesus is calling us to witness to these poor lost souls.

Time to make pard gay again!!!


There are those who play make believe at a young age. Others grow into adulthood believing they are 3 star antifa super soldiers

https://streamable.com/1kfh49

/serious

Best of luck converting vegetarians
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Aug 1 2022 03:27pm
how the hel did transgenders end up being some kind of super heros?
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Aug 1 2022 03:31pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Aug 1 2022 04:27pm)
how the hel did transgenders end up being some kind of super heros?


Easy, live in a world secretly run by luciferian satanists.
Where everything that is bad, is good.
What better champions could you ask for?
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Aug 1 2022 03:50pm
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Dunno why you keep posting that. Yes that's me and I love that pic. I'm cute af in it.

Quote (WiziLiCe @ 1 Aug 2022 22:19)
There are those who play make believe at a young age. Others grow into adulthood believing they are 3 star antifa super soldiers

https://streamable.com/1kfh49

/serious

Best of luck converting vegetarians


Embarrassing that he or you took that seriously "5 star antifa supersoldier". Lmao.
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Aug 1 2022 03:51pm
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Aug 1 2022 10:50pm)
Dunno why you keep posting that. Yes that's me and I love that pic. I'm cute af in it.



Embarrassing that he or you took that seriously "5 star antifa supersoldier". Lmao.


hahahahahhahaha, yeah, you're a cute man af.
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Dunno why you keep posting that. Yes that's me and I love that pic. I'm cute af in it.



Embarrassing that he or you took that seriously "5 star antifa supersoldier". Lmao.


btw, your voice is super manly <3
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Aug 1 2022 03:53pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 1 Aug 2022 20:24)
so, and correct me if i'm wrong, you dont want to call it mental illness because rather than going to a therapist who deals with mental illness generally it requires a specific therapist who deals with a specific kind of mental illness developmental disorder?

along the same line the treatment for all kinds of mental illnesses vary wildly. some people just need an ear to listen to them, some need incredibly intense exposure therapy, some cant change regardless and treatment is just mitigation of the worst outcomes.


I mean the reason trans folks should seek therapy is to monitor and treat comorbid complications of the disorder. Transness cannot be "treated" through psychotherapy any more than being gay can.
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