You are desperate comparing completely different latitudes within your average.

Regular Gas...
High California $6.403
Avg $4.970
Low Georgia $4.407

Diesel...
High California $6.957
Low Oklahoma $5.195

This post was edited by Mondain on Jun 9 2022 11:24am

You are all wrong dude, electric cars can lost a bit of range with low temperatures but lets see things globally: Norway ( which is easily equivalent to your northern states) had no major issue because of this.

Not to mention you are talking for like what ? 5, 10% of US population ? lowest T° in Norway are going even lower than these states. Ofc not much people are living in these areas on both sides.

The "long distances" excuse is much more acceptable. Still: 2.3%



This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jun 9 2022 11:44am

We are talking about Canada, not the USA and we were discussing the people that are not just commuting in metropolitan cities.

Also frankly for that matter Norway maintains a climate that isn't that warm and isn't that cold. Lets take historically the coldest month in Oslo which is Feb. The average is -5C for the low. Now lets look at where I'm at in Canada, its -30C average in Feb. Even places far south in Canada like Quebec City average feb temperature is -13C. This also means our cold extremes dip far lower across Canada.

Wrong about what? Reduced range in cold climate? Increased strain on electrical system in cold climate? Minnesota having Climate Zone 7 (where I live, regular -40F conditions before wind chili's)

Beyond the battery issues well described, discrete electronic component characteristics are bound by temperature, meaning lifespans reduced unless using component for the proper climate. And EV infrastructure over vast rural America not there to support the reduced range.

I'm a huge EV fan boy, but they are not a swap replacement for the long distance gas guzzlers.. They are a great solution for other vehicles such as sailboat inboard diesel to EV, or in warmer climates, or in smaller countries with more infrastructure, or short range commuter.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Jun 9 2022 11:50am

Oslo is at South so it's lmk where you are in canada with -30C average on a month.

Pretty sure the vast majority of people living here are very certainly in a safe zone regarding temperatures.
Not to mention EV starts without any issue at low temperature. it simply get a range lowered by up 30%.

Actually you have only one variable: the limited range, which means only people needing to to large distances have issues, this is not going to work or supermarket.
And usually you are not taking your vacancies during full winter...

Here's the smash. I didnt appreciate.





People are rarely doing large trip, 250 km range (155 miles) is pretty decent 99+% of time, in full cold winter ofc. Else it's like 215 miles.
Talking about cheapest vehicles available in EU.

Like I said, I'm all about them, but they are not a swap replacement for gas guzzlers for all the reasons above. If you got the money and a short distance commute lifestyle, enjoy it, you are the privileged class we subsidize.

There are some exciting claims being made about battery tech tho, but we'll see what hits the consumer market in the next few years. Whoever solves the battery problems gonna be worth way more than Elon or Bezos.

Yeah I think that's the main problem. The technology just isn't here yet

I am aware of where most Canadians live in Canada. In every post I made it sait its not a solution for those living outside metro areas or those who plan on travelling distance outside their respective towns.

For the metro population really if they're not travelling outside the city the answer for them / what should be prioritized by government as better access to metro transit, rail systems, sky trains, etc.

and to your question, Nunavut.

I have also highlighted the issues with the decrease in range, plus having to let your vehicle warm up which is a further decrease in range as a result of having to keep the climate controls on.

EV's will probably be the future but right now its like buying a Commodore 64. Lots of upgrades to come in the future yet.

This post was edited by SBD on Jun 9 2022 01:10pm

The good thing with this is that people might start walking more!