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Jun 1 2022 08:39am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Jun 1 2022 12:12am)
Define criminal. Because he wasn't a criminal before he did this...only after.

In the eyes of the law he was a perfectly upright citizen when he purchased them because NO ONE ACTUALLY CHECKS WHAT PEOPLE ARE LIKE THAT BUY THEM.

Just pass a background check at 18....pretty simple criteria for any would-be school shooter. Laws are far too lax.


How would a background check help to prevent mass shootings though? I don't think someone who is thinking of shooting up a school will tell people that.

Ideally background checks will prevent the crazy from purchasing a gun but we all know that in reality it very very rarely does this. We would just be adding more bureaucracy and making the gun-buying process more cumbersome for the regular people.
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Jun 1 2022 08:42am
Quote (JessiWan @ Jun 1 2022 07:31am)
Owning guns is not about fighting the military and you are stupid for thinking it is.

It's about fending off feds. These minions of the tyrannical federal government keep getting killed by people who have guns, which is why the government wants to ban them so badly.


wut?
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Jun 1 2022 08:43am
Quote (Sh00p @ May 31 2022 11:15pm)
Not sure why everyone is defaulting into this terrible argument, including people who have served in the military, but I think it needs to be noted that this specific conflict was not a full fledged military conflict that the United states was going to just stomp the taliban into the ground, much as they should have.

Nobody. Not China, not Russia, not the entire rest of the world, can stand against the united states millitary. If anyone tells you that they can, they are lying, most likely purposefully. And if the entire rest of the world cant stop the united states millitary at full force, what in the flying fuck are a bunch of toothless hillbillies and their shit for brains sons with a couple guns going to do?

You're going to fucking do nothing. Now stop sitting here at your keyboards telling other people that you are and giggling every time a bunch of children that arent yours get gunned down by a mentally ill son of yours.

I think your missing the fact that if there was a conflict here in usa, police officers and military members will be protecting their families first
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Jun 1 2022 08:45am
Quote (Subwoofer @ May 31 2022 11:24pm)
Not reading all your rant.


If you refuse to read what your debate opponent writes then what's the point of engaging you in a talk?

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Wanna know what REALLY would of stopped this? Not letting the 18 year old legally buy Ar-15s.


Or better yet, lets go back in time far enough. Let's prevent the shooter's parents from having sex and conceiving him. Then none of this would have happened.
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Jun 1 2022 08:46am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Jun 1 2022 07:42am)
wut?


What I meant is that the government wants to ban guns because their agents, the feds, are being killed by people who own guns.

Gun control is not about fighting the military.
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Jun 1 2022 08:50am
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What I meant is that the government wants to ban guns because their agents, the feds, are being killed by people who own guns.

Gun control is not about fighting the military.


um a lot of the people in this forum and in the US believe a major component of owning weapons is to fight back against a tyrannical gov't. GTFOH
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Jun 1 2022 08:50am
Quote (Subwoofer @ May 31 2022 09:55pm)
What were the parents of kids in that classroom gonna do exactly? It was a fatal funnel situation that is bad for soldiers yet alone a dingus with a handgun and zero training or body armor. Letting the parents run in would of caused more chaos and deaths PERIOD.


While its true that allowing the parents to go in might cause more deaths, however, it is not the police's duty to save parents from getting themselves killed. They are adults, and if they want to risk their lives, it's their prerogative.
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Jun 1 2022 08:51am
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um a lot of the people in this forum and in the US believe a major component of owning weapons is to fight back against a tyrannical gov't. GTFOH


Yes.

You fight back against a tyrannical government by shooting at their agents. The feds.
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Jun 1 2022 08:55am
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There's no reason to assume they all lie in the same direction ;)


But at least you admit that they lie. That's a step forward.

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Jun 1 2022 09:24am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 1 2022 12:32am)
Go back to Whoopi. Your thinking is too simplistic to understand what's being spoken about in the first place. You've directly stated that parents should not be allowed to defend their children, parents should be disarmed, police can be trusted, all on the back of police detaining parents and forcing them to listen to their children being executed.


Did the police ever give a reason for this? Like did they ever explain why they stopped the parents from going in to save their children?

Btw, very nice to see you back, Bobb.

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