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Quote (Norlander @ 2 Aug 2022 16:58)
Chopdix was thinking the same about Russia. Just don't start a topic about it :) We live in times when anything may happen. Anything bad.




The only troops the USA will send if any. :thumbsup:


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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 2 Aug 2022 12:12)
My reasoning is quite naive.
US citizen and Troops cause Votes

So I don't think US would put troops in Taiwan to defend her.
But I can assure you that USA will fight till every last Taiwanese.
And when things are bleak, they will make the Japanese come in.
The Koreans might decline.
The only way US troops will come in , is if the Japanese and Taiwanese are completely done for, which is highly unlikely since in such a situation , the Chinese will suffer heavy loses as well.


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A million more a million less. Nobody would notice. Only black lives matter :)




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Taiwan an island of 20 million, close to china, with a significant 5th column is going to stand against a 1.4 billion population super power with a GDP of 15billion.

This topic is 100% legit. Too many people have brains fried by marvel movies. China will either take taiwan by force, or the 1000% more likely outcome that they do it through soft power and diplomacy over the coming decades.. China is an economical powerhouse, it doesn't need to fight wars to get what it wants.

US shouldn't really force the issue and turn it into a war, because there is no scenario where that tiny island stands up to 1.4 billion. It is far preferable for everyone involved that they just let it be absorbed peacefully


well the Us forced the Ukraine issue so for sure when they think they are ready they, or elements of their government, will attempt to force the Taiwan issue, for world peace, democracy and wrangler jeans.
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well the Us forced the Ukraine issue so for sure when they think they are ready they, or elements of their government, will attempt to force the Taiwan issue, for world peace, democracy and wrangler jeans.


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I really dont understand the chinese strategy re: Taiwan.

on the one hand the lesson from ukraine is, dont get into a shooting war as you will be ostrasized by the West, and this will hurt. Yet, on the other hand the ever increased chinese incursions into contested? airspace and volume of planes involved, suggests a ramping up. At the very least this trend will increase after Nancy visits the region. From a long term strategic stand point it makes no sense whatsoever for china to invade now. they are better off slowly cooking taiwan (i.e. olive branch, trade ties, play nice, lets be friends). having friendly neighbours to my mind is far more appealing then hating each other/creating global animosity/distrust regardless of right or wrong). if china has successfully mimic'd western culture, traditions, laws etc. to a degree, and it has took them this far, there is no reason to continue doing that. better to have a broad alliance and continue doing what they do - sowing dissention among bordering countries, pushing the envelope as far as they can, thinking long term etc. (i am not saying they are goodies, i am saying what would appear to be the best (long term) plan.

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I really dont understand the chinese strategy re: Taiwan.

on the one hand the lesson from ukraine is, dont get into a shooting war as you will be ostrasized by the West, and this will hurt. Yet, on the other hand the ever increased chinese incursions into contested? airspace and volume of planes involved, suggests a ramping up. At the very least this trend will increase after Nancy visits the region. From a long term strategic stand point it makes no sense whatsoever for china to invade now. they are better off slowly cooking taiwan (i.e. olive branch, trade ties, play nice, lets be friends). having friendly neighbours to my mind is far more appealing then hating each other/creating global animosity/distrust regardless of right or wrong).


I think taiwan should've played both sides, but now that is in the past.

China is gonna start preparing an invasion, in 1-3? years everything will be in place. If they actually act on it boils down to if relations continue in the same path or not. China can't just pull out an invasion today you realise, we don't actually know what the chinese stratergy is because it will take atleast some time to be prepared and even longer to potentially materalize.

The taiwanese have blundered majorly. The US won't give them more than they already have got, and the chinese can hurt them far more than they have done so far which is (nothing at all).

This is just my takes, i might be a bit off, i gotta think about it a bit longer. The chinese are being pushed into a corner and im not sure what options they have in that case. It isn't like they can just ignore taiwan, but at the same time their worldwide ambitions shouldn't be spoiled for the sake of a small relatively irrelevant country

This post was edited by ownyaah on Aug 2 2022 12:32pm
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