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May 27 2022 04:12pm
Quote (thundercock @ May 27 2022 04:44pm)
I often think that we focus too much on individual shootings when discussing policy. In the Ramos case, he seemed pretty determined so nothing would have stopped him besides getting guns in the first place. The question becomes, "is there a policy that would have prevented him from getting a weapon?" I'm not convinced that there is without making semi-autos really difficult to get or we get really intrusive in our background checks (internet history, psych evaluations, etc.)


...and semi-autos have been around for over 100 years. The thing is that an easily-used rifle is simultaneously effective for combat and hunting. They're extremely common, and going after them is going to get a lot of people killed.

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Cant imagine living in a country where I feel or even consider the right to shoot back. It's nice living in a country where the mass majority don't even consider or need to consider such things. Leads to a bunch of people not living on edge keeping a gun next to their bedroom table.

#Canadianprivlage I guess


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No you didn't, because there isn't, because you're fucking clueless. And the only thing scientifically indefensible is refusing to call the fetus "life,"

Yeah, I'm totally gonna bring my fucking halberd out to fight off the home intruders! Moron.


you'd actually be less of a "moron" if you did. it'd significantly decrease the likelihood of you or your loved ones (if you can call it that considering your views on women's rights) dying. american taliban and their weird rationalisations... amazing...

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Cant imagine living in a country where I feel or even consider the right to shoot back. It's nice living in a country where the mass majority don't even consider or need to consider such things. Leads to a bunch of people not living on edge keeping a gun next to their bedroom table.

#Canadianprivlage I guess


We have our fair share of gun violence, our process of licensing for firearms and taking a course is good though. I believe every adult should be trained in the use of firearms. We will be invaded by China eventually so that's why
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Quote (Santara @ May 27 2022 03:12pm)
...and semi-autos have been around for over 100 years. The thing is that an easily-used rifle is simultaneously effective for combat and hunting. They're extremely common, and going after them is going to get a lot of people killed.



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to be fair, having the 2A and a more armed populace in Canada wouldn't change that, they'd still do it.

We (Canadian conservatives, participants and supporters of the convoy) are all armed to the teeth
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May 27 2022 04:18pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ May 28 2022 09:07am)
nope never said ban.. I own 3 guns
I said responsibly own punish law breakers. Maybe add insurance, we do that for cars who kill people
thats a long essay to be off the mark


I haven't read what you said or didn't say previously my original comment was directed at op and general left/dem agenda. Why do you drama queens have to make it about yourself all the time?

Good for you that you don't want guns banned and that you own 3. I feel like a class system for different guns could be in place such class 1 light handguns/low calibre etc, class 2 automatic/heavy calibre, class 3 bazookas and heavy machine guns/cannons etc.
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May 27 2022 04:41pm
Quote (Santara @ May 27 2022 03:12pm)
...and semi-autos have been around for over 100 years. The thing is that an easily-used rifle is simultaneously effective for combat and hunting. They're extremely common, and going after them is going to get a lot of people killed.


I think it depends on how you "go after them." Most gun owners are responsible so I imagine there would be some grandfather clauses for people who are already in possession of them. As I said, I'd focus on cleaning up the streets first since the vast majority of deaths are from people who don't even have the right to own them.
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May 27 2022 04:41pm
Quote (Santara @ May 27 2022 04:12pm)
...and semi-autos have been around for over 100 years. The thing is that an easily-used rifle is simultaneously effective for combat and hunting. They're extremely common, and going after them is going to get a lot of people killed.



So privileged that if the government doesn't like who you give donations to, they'll shut you off from the financial system and possibly cause you to lose your home, car, job, etc.


Yes, i'm sure your guns will protect you from big brother!


Meanwhile, every time your taxes go up or you pay absurd bills for health insurance you have no problem with him fucking you in the ass. Getting slowly fucked is fine by those type of people but watch out for the day the gov't comes down and tries to take it all in one swoop. You will have your guns ready!

People like that could be whittled away to nothing and say, aint nothing we can do about it. They are the same people that say our guns protect us from the gov't.

It's comical to be honest.

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May 27 2022 09:38pm
Quote (thundercock @ May 27 2022 06:41pm)
I think it depends on how you "go after them." Most gun owners are responsible so I imagine there would be some grandfather clauses for people who are already in possession of them. As I said, I'd focus on cleaning up the streets first since the vast majority of deaths are from people who don't even have the right to own them.


Do you register them beforehand? What do you do when the grandfather clause is up?

I don't see any situation where guns are heavily restricted / outlawed and we don't have 200+ million guns unaccounted for.
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Yes, i'm sure your guns will protect you from big brother!


Meanwhile, every time your taxes go up or you pay absurd bills for health insurance you have no problem with him fucking you in the ass. Getting slowly fucked is fine by those type of people but watch out for the day the gov't comes down and tries to take it all in one swoop. You will have your guns ready!

People like that could be whittled away to nothing and say, aint nothing we can do about it. They are the same people that say our guns protect us from the gov't.

It's comical to be honest.


Are you suggesting people should kill municipal / state / federal officials over high insurance premiums? I want to know before contacting the FBI.
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