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Pelosi literally rejected two members who were INVOLVED WITH PLANNING JAN 6. Don't act like it's her fault when McCarthy knew EXACTLY what he was doing. We've gone over the sequence of events MULTIPLE times now so you're either have the memory of a goldfish or you're being disingenuous.
That still doesn't refute my argument. If Pelosi had been interested in genuine bipartisanship, she could have selected some boring backbench Republicans who were neither involved with Jan 6 nor rabid anti-Trumpers. Appointing Cheney and Kinzinger, the two most outspoken anti-Trump Republicans in all of Congress, tells you all there is to know about the (bi)partisanship of this committee.
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It's pretty obvious that the Dems have moved to the right on economic policy, ESPECIALLY when you compare it to what Obama ran on. Out of curiosity, what's your age? I don't want to ding you on not knowing about things like Occupy Wall Street, wanting to repeal the GWB tax cuts, etc. It's easy to look back at what the results were and pretend there wasn't a debate at the time but these folks were VERY liberal.
Mid-30s. This specific argument of yours isn't very compelling. Occupy Wall Street was mostly an activist movement, iirc, there were virtually no Democrats in elected office who were on board with their agenda. Obama, after having bailed out the banks, was cracking down on the Occupy Wall Street protesters.
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For example, here is a quote by Obama before he ran: "I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its gross national product on health care, cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that's what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. That's what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we've got to take back the White House, we've got to take back the Senate, and we've got to take back the House."
Obama always talked a big game and then underdelivered. In reality, he passed Obamacare, a healthcare reform which was much more measured and narrow in scope - and that's in spite of having a filibuster-proof supermajority! Compare this to Biden's spend-and-tax spree in the Inflation Reduction Act, which was passed in spite of much slimmer congressional majorities - and the party would have gone significantly further to the left if not for Manchin and Sinema. All the other swing state incumbents and candidates were on board for the original $3.5 trillion BBB bill, e.g. Kelly, Warnock, Fetterman, Cortez Mastro and so on.
And to reiterate: this all came against the backdrop of multi multi-trillion covid relief packages, some of which were passed while the pandemic was already abating and inflation picked up pace. Republicans and some economists warned that this would supercharge inflation, the Biden admin brushed these warnigns aside, claiming that inflation would be "transitory". It stood at 7.5% in January, and now, in August, the Biden admin celebrates the fact that inflation came down to 8.5% from the previous 9.1%...
Also, didn't Democrats already raise the corporate tax rates back up from where the 2017 Trump tax cuts left them? So it took Obama 4 years to repeal the Bush tax cuts for at least the highest income earners while making them permanent for everyone else, while Biden undid the Trump tax cuts during his first 18 months.
This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 17 2022 01:41pm