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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 2 2022 11:52pm)
Winners will have to adopt alot of crack babies :lol:


biden sending us crack pipes alll you get is lousy snail ......... haha :)
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So the main theory I see going around is that someone from the liberal wing (ie their clerks, or a justice themself) leaked it for the purpose of trying to stir up enough negative press backlash that it could possibly sway one of the conservative justices to defect, mainly aimed at kavanaugh. If they knew they were going to lose the vote, they could make a last ditch effort by someone desperate enough. Pulling out the stops, like democrats did in the few months after Trump was elected / after he was sworn in. Remember the winter of leaks? The whole 2016-2017 season was a leak every day, some from random bureaucrats and analysts and fbi agents and other individual motivated actors, some from heads of departments and top politicians. Once they saw Trump win, they were motivated to break the law even when they had no real dirt on him. Well, someone in SCOTUS's orbit, or maybe either Kagan or Sotomayor, could have been desperate enough


If any of them are going to cave, and it's not Roberts cashing in a favor from Lucifer, it's Kavanaugh. I sensed a limp wrist in him even before the bullshit rape thing he went through, and it seems like the abuse intended by that rape drama got through to him, he knows what it feels like to cross the Cathedral. They'd be smart to press him the most.
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Quote (fender @ May 2 2022 11:23pm)
correct, you seem like a very informed individual. what many people don't know is that in "most european countries" women are definitely forced to have a rapist's or a close blood-relative's baby... oh wait, that's utter bullshit, not even the ultra-conservative shitlords that have nuked women's rights in poland in recent years were that cruel, that brazen with their religious delusions. not only that, the lack of comprehensive sex ed and affordable health care also means that US teen pregnancy rate is much higher than in "most european countries". foh with your easily debunked lies, lol.

the whole point of this (apart from the religious pandering to close-minded bigots who want to impose their lifestyle choices onto others) is to disproportionally punish poor and minority women. those that can't afford to just go to another state where bigots haven't taken full control of legislation yet. we both know that conservative politicians' wives and mistresses will still have their abortions, we both know that all this does is make abortions less safe, and women in difficult situations extremely desperate - trying to force poor people to have poor kids they don't want, further increasing your already devastating poverty rate. back to the middle ages with you, lol.


Your laws are significantly more conservative but the barrier to access is lower compared to several US states. It really varies from state to state. Where I live, my wife can get an abortion while 6 months pregnant, no questions asked. It's a freedom you could only dream of having. Other states require wait times, have to go through a mandatory ultrasound, etc. Ultimately, if you're willing to jump through the hoops, you can abort a fetus much later than you can in most European countries.

You seem to misunderstand conservatives. Do you honestly think that they are intelligent enough to connect the dots that abortion will hurt the poor and minorities? That's not even part of the equation for them.
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May 3 2022 01:13am
Quote (Goomshill @ May 2 2022 11:23pm)
So the main theory I see going around is that someone from the liberal wing (ie their clerks, or a justice themself) leaked it for the purpose of trying to stir up enough negative press backlash that it could possibly sway one of the conservative justices to defect, mainly aimed at kavanaugh. If they knew they were going to lose the vote, they could make a last ditch effort by someone desperate enough. Pulling out the stops, like democrats did in the few months after Trump was elected / after he was sworn in. Remember the winter of leaks? The whole 2016-2017 season was a leak every day, some from random bureaucrats and analysts and fbi agents and other individual motivated actors, some from heads of departments and top politicians. Once they saw Trump win, they were motivated to break the law even when they had no real dirt on him. Well, someone in SCOTUS's orbit, or maybe either Kagan or Sotomayor, could have been desperate enough


I don't think this is aimed at the Justices. I think it's aimed at US. The Justices are pretty much immune to political pressure so they are likely trying to get Congress to do something about it.

Kagan and her clerks would never do something so egregious either. This definitely has Sotomayor written all over it.
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May 3 2022 01:23am
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I don't think this is aimed at the Justices. I think it's aimed at US. The Justices are pretty much immune to political pressure so they are likely trying to get Congress to do something about it.

Kagan and her clerks would never do something so egregious either. This definitely has Sotomayor written all over it.


If justices were immune to political pressure Roe v Wade would have been struck down decades ago. Or never existed in the first place.
Let's say that somehow Derek Chauvin's appeal wound up at the US supreme court instead of the MN one, like the civil rights trial could allow. A sequence of events because a mayor and governor bowed to the mob, because prosecutors bowed to the mob, because a judge bowed to the mob, because the jury was the mob. Would Kavanaugh have no qualms about lighting America on fire? Well there's at least one arsonist on this court, whether its a justice or more likely a clerk. They want to see the firestorm and Kavanaugh will feel that heat. Between now and the decision being formally released, there will be an all-out blitz of political pressure unleashed on the court. We'll have Maxine Waters saying that if you see Alito jerking off in a gay porn theater, you need to garrote him.
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May 3 2022 01:29am
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If justices were immune to political pressure Roe v Wade would have been struck down decades ago. Or never existed in the first place.
Let's say that somehow Derek Chauvin's appeal wound up at the US supreme court instead of the MN one, like the civil rights trial could allow. A sequence of events because a mayor and governor bowed to the mob, because prosecutors bowed to the mob, because a judge bowed to the mob, because the jury was the mob. Would Kavanaugh have no qualms about lighting America on fire? Well there's at least one arsonist on this court, whether its a justice or more likely a clerk. They want to see the firestorm and Kavanaugh will feel that heat. Between now and the decision being formally released, there will be an all-out blitz of political pressure unleashed on the court. We'll have Maxine Waters saying that if you see Alito jerking off in a gay porn theater, you need to garrote him.


Nah, what are they going to do to him? What Kavanaugh went through during his confirmation hearing is so much worse than anything the libs could throw at him.

The amount of heat these people feel is minimal. They live in their nice, cozy bubbles and never have to interact with regular people. When they leave Washington, they are interacting with America's top law students.
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May 3 2022 01:40am
even the supreme court is now leaking shit, what a fucking clown world

are there any trustworthy institutions left?
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May 3 2022 01:41am
I think we can all agree that Bernie Sanders is the reason that women and trans-men will lose the right to annihilate their fetuses. Bernie actively sabotaged HRC's campaign which caused Trump to win. Trump appointed 3 conservative Justices.

Thanks Bernie!!!
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Quote (theCrossbones @ 3 May 2022 05:20)
I think they voted for it but always thought it was against "somebody else" now their HS daughter will have to give birth to the black kid. Fuck up her life too
all hell will break loose.

Abortion will not be outlawed across the country lol, it just won't be federally forced to be legal in red states anymore.
Abortion will still be legal in all blue states and probably in all or almost all purple states too. Some two thirds of the U.S. population, and easily 80+% of Democrats, will still be living in places where it's legal.


fender already summed up where the true injustice of this decision lies: some red state women who are either poor or living in very remote places can't get access to abortions anymore - but everyone else still can.



Quote (thundercock @ 3 May 2022 09:13)
I don't think this is aimed at the Justices. I think it's aimed at US. The Justices are pretty much immune to political pressure so they are likely trying to get Congress to do something about it.

Imho, this leak is aimed less at spurring action from the current Congress and more at the midterm voters/the future composition of Congress.

If things stay on the current trajectory, Dems are gonna get slaughtered in November. Shifting the political debate to an incredibly polarizing issue on which at least 50% of the public agrees with them and which galvanizes a crucial group of swing voters (educated women) is a much better proposition for Dems than a midterm election about inflation or making an "OrAnGe MaN bAd!!!"-redux the central pitch of their campaign.



This pretty obvious political ramification was also noted by Jonah Goldberg:

https://twitter.com/JonahDispatch/status/1521294360205312002

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 3 2022 01:50am
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Nah, what are they going to do to him? What Kavanaugh went through during his confirmation hearing is so much worse than anything the libs could throw at him.

The amount of heat these people feel is minimal. They live in their nice, cozy bubbles and never have to interact with regular people. When they leave Washington, they are interacting with America's top law students.


Its not about personal threats or takedowns, its about holding the country itself hostage. How many well-intentioned bureaucrats and politicians were confronted by BLM mobs and bowed to their demands, not because they were afraid of their own safety or own careers in particular, but because they believed appeasing the mob would save lives? That was the explicit basis of mayor frey ordering police to stand down instead of defending the third precinct in the floyd riots, as I continue this tortured metaphor. And nevermind that it actually cost far more lives in the long run by societal impacts. If someone with weak knees like Kavanaugh sees the country burning as a result of his decision, he could be convinced to contradict his own sincere convictions and knowledge of the law to uphold a precedent he doesn't agree with.

basically, convincing him to do this;

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