Immigrants who "get on the dole" are better off going to socialist countries like Canada and Europe. It's a lot easier to be poor and lazy in Canada than in America. Anyway, I don't believe that anyone is entitled to anything. You need to work for it. If an immigrant will do the same job better and cheaper, then you're shit out of luck. Work harder than the immigrant and quit being lazy.

LMFAO at the bold. Yea, a fucking white person is going to bust their ass when they are one of the laziest people. Can you at least provide a realistic scenario so we can have a conversation? How about a hardworking Indian vs. hardworking Jap? Between those two, I think I would choose the Jap but that's just a personal preference.

How am I being replaced? Someone who is from Spain is white but they speak Spanish and are likely to be Catholic. Do you think they have more in common with the Brit (who speaks English and is Protestant) or the person from Peru (dark skinned but Spanish speaking and Catholic)? Like I said, skin color is completely irrelevant and it's CULTURE that matters.

Refugees and immigrants are distinct classes as far as the government is concerned. An immigrant comes because they plan to settle in the new country, either temporarily or permanently. A refugee is someone who flees danger.

These distinctions are important because of who they select for. Immigrants are disproportionately hard workers for example, because they picked their asses up and left their country for better opportunities. Refugees aren't necessarily that.

In the United States, Immigrants are a boon at pretty much every level. We *should* be welcoming them in and giving them jobs and education because of this. But the easily manipulated such as yourself don't understand that lol

Then this proves what I said, that immigrants take jobs away from natives. You like to use euphemism and call it "willing to do the same job better and cheaper" when in fact it's simply immigrants undercutting American workers. You think people should go to unhealthy lengths to work hard in order to make money, totally ignoring that they should be able to have quality of life too at the end of the day. Competition might be good for consumers however for workers too much of it is a bad thing. I mean, I don't know what you do for a living, but imagine that in your town there are thousands of immigrants who also qualify for your job, and they are willing to do the same job "better and cheaper" than you. You are now forced to have to work 14 hours a day just to keep your job, because that's how many hours extra that they are willing to work. How would you like this? You are also speaking as if a person's worth is strictly determined by his economic output. This is not so. To me an immigrant has less worth than a true-bred American regardless of how hard he is willing to work. A real American continues the nation's genetic legacy. This to me is infinitely more valuable than doing jobs better and cheaper.



I don't think you can read. I never made any claims that all white people are hardworking. I was giving you a hypothetical scenario. I said, IF there is a white person who works 14 hours a day and an Indian who does the same, which would you choose? I want you to know that when you reflexively bring up the white trash as if they were the only option we have, it's stupid. There are plenty of hardworking white people around, and you choose to ignore this reality.


If you let in foreigners and immigrants, who think different, believe in different things, and who look different, then you are altering the fabric of your nation's existence. The more alien the immigrant, the more drastic the change. So yes, someone from Spain would replace Americans, but not as much as a dark-skinned person from Peru.

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You talk as if economic output was the only thing we should consider. This is stupid and shows that you are brainwashed. And you have the gall to call people easily manipulated.

I don't need wooden googleable definitions between the two, as an immigrant and as someone that has worked with refugees I think I know the differences. Almost all refugees that come here come because of economic and social safety net reasons, if it was simply to escape war there's literally countries next door in their regions versus of thousands of miles away, but anyway that's besides the point.

Point is, we should encourage Americans to have kids. Not only, we should encourage Americans to build cohesive two parent households to ensure those kids success. Skipping this and saying well we can bring foreigners to replace us having kids is nonsensical and self-cannibalizing. If you want to go commit genetic suicide as well as encourage large swaths of our population to do the same by going gay, that's fine, just know immigrants like me are here to replace you.

That's capitalism baby. Love it or leave it. This is why America is number 1 and your country is a number that is hilariously far away from 1.



Good! I'm glad that immigrants took jobs away from natives. If that happens, it means the natives weren't cutting it. I also don't mind undercutting b/c it means we get cheaper products and/or the company gets more profit which will increase the value of my investments. Ultimately though, if you want to be part of the number 1 country in the history of the country, you'd better bust your ass. You don't stay number 1 by being lazy and bragging about the legacy of your ancestors. If you find that the competition is too tough, you need to adapt. If that means switching your career or coming up with an innovative way to be more productive, then so be it. I don't mourn the beta that doesn't get to mate and neither should you.

Okay, I'll entertain your wildly unrealistic hypothetical scenario where a white person magically has it in them to work 14 hours per day. I'd choose the person who is the better cultural fit for my company. It very well could be the white person in that scenario. It might not be though. Like I said, the color of one's skin doesn't mean as much as one's culture and values.

I'm interested in your proposals. I've seen stuff from Biden, Romney, and Rubio but that's about it.

Regarding the bold. You won't be replacing ME per se but you'll be replacing the people who deserve to be replaced. We should not mourn them.

Jeebus, the fear of brown people in here is palpable.

Yeah why would anybody see this as proto-fascism. It's truly beyond comprehension.

I mean who am I to have proposals? But it's obvious the hedonistic lifestyle that's increasingly the norm in the US and largely the west is damaging. Go fuck around until your early to mid 30s then try to have a family? Meanwhile immigrants by their 30s have 2-3 kids already. We need a re-calibration on being pro-family but there's a number of social trends working against that. Like I said the promotion of being gay is one, the fact that we as a society tell young people it's more important to build a career than have a family is another, the fact that we're squeezing the middle class economically is a 3rd.