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Mar 24 2022 07:20am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Mar 24 2022 09:12am)
Thats just talking nonsense, sorry.

Thats another thing, believers love to ignore. They just throw words like heart, spirit, Soul and Mind around like it all be different things....


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Mar 24 2022 07:23am
Why believe anything in a history book.
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Mar 24 2022 07:24am
Quote (Mondain @ Mar 24 2022 08:23am)
Why believe anything in a history book.


because you can evaluate the sources and decide for yourself.

There's methodology to determine if a historical claim is likely to be true. Historians generally don't just write a book and then it's just magically accepted.
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Some people say that the Big bang was GOD. People's perspectives on this vary from person to person. Nothing just pops into existence something had to happen to live on earth. Was it Time, maybe evolution, No one knows. In the end we will all find out. As for now just be kind to each other. In the End we meet the same Fate.
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Quote (Mondain @ Mar 24 2022 02:11pm)
You already have the answer you seek. You're unwilling to accept anything else.

Why are you asking a question in which you've already determined an answer to?


Accept? I would accept everything, if its logic. Really anything.

So, let me ask you straight away: Why do you believe in god?
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because you can evaluate the sources and decide for yourself.

There's methodology to determine if a historical claim is likely to be true. Historians generally don't just write a book and then it's just magically accepted.


When the roman empire wiped out opposing villages and towns. They would salt the fields , burn buildings and over-all demolish the area.

They litterally made those people disappear. They were never recorded in history.

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it's just magically accepted.


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Mar 24 2022 07:28am
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I wouldn't describe the world we live in as a masterpiece. It seems pretty sloppy.


Ignorance is the proof of knowledge, because if there were no knowledge there could be no absence of knowledge. The same is true for the weaknesses of the universe, there must be a power, for without the latter the existence of the former could not be established.
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Mar 24 2022 07:30am
Quote (Diablos_Uber @ Mar 24 2022 02:08pm)
I've told you why people believe in God. The majority believe in a God because they feel that it is in some way beneficial for themselves.

Others believe in God in the same way that you build axioms off of the expectation that gravity will remain unchanged. In other words, they believe because the belief itself is assumed.

The rest of your argumens are based around assumptions.


You cant believe something because its beneficial to you. Thats where the problems start. Believing is not something you can choose to do.

The reason for believing something, has to be evidential to make sense. Thats how our world works - except for Religion.
Thats what fascinates me about that question.
God is such a strong example of wishful thinking. People do not want to die, they also dont want to be responsable for anything at all. God gives so much comfort that they try to be convinced about it at all cost. Absolutely fascinating.
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Mar 24 2022 07:33am
Quote (Mondain @ Mar 24 2022 09:23am)
Why believe anything in a history book.


Quote (Modulok2405 @ Mar 24 2022 09:25am)
Accept? I would accept everything, if its logic. Really anything.

So, let me ask you straight away: Why do you believe in god?





I hope I'm around in 20-40 years and I see one of you folks being rushed to the hospital. I'm gonna ask you then... which you hope the doctor believes...


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Quote (MildSambal @ Mar 24 2022 08:28am)
Ignorance is the proof of knowledge, because if there were no knowledge there could be no absence of knowledge. The same is true for the weaknesses of the universe, there must be a power, for without the latter the existence of the former could not be established.


Even if I accept that (I don't) it doesn't really answer the question. Even very simple things like the fact that we breathe through the same hold we swallow through is sloppy. God's design is crap if God designed the universe.
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