You know, I don't think it should be up for debate or vote. Social media platforms who censor presidents and presidential candidates during an election need to have their domains seized. My Dad was a military contractor in Saudi Arabia in 2003. There are certain websites and domains that are on the Internet that American citizens are blocked from accessing while on American Soil. For example, live feeds and what not. it's for own safety and the integrity of our nation.

This post was edited by Superman on Feb 5 2022 11:52am

It was an embarrassment, but it should not be censored. It's not up to social media giants to decide whether or not American Citizens can handle the content. At the same time, it's also not their fault if people can't. You know whose responsible for our actions and words? Ourselves, our elected officials, our government.

After 9/11 happened, would you want Facebook censoring our reactions because they didn't think we could handle it? When something horrible like that happens, we are usually in state of shock, outrage, grief, etc. My point is we look to our elected officials to make the hard decisions because we are not able to make the best long term decisions. Social Media giants should not have that power.

This post was edited by Superman on Feb 5 2022 11:58am

As long as the social media platforms are private for-profit companies, they can censor whatever they want, they can promote whatever they want, and they can block whatever they want. There are billions of websites. If you don't like what YouTwitFace is doing, go to a different site.

If you want them to be held as an impartial communications service, then threatening to shut them down isn't the answer. The answer is to have them reclassed as a Utility. There are some problems around that though, namely, they make their money on selling your information, and selling ad space. Meaning, unlike every other utility, you aren't paying for a product, you ARE the product. There are some regulations around utilities that honestly prevents some of the social media networks' business models from working they way they currently exist. Like, utilities can't sell your personal information, they can't give away your private communications without a warrant/subpoena, etc.

Regardless, I'd be 100% down for reclassification of social media as utilities. But any attempt to shut them down because "you don't like their politics" makes you no different than the crybaby little antifa and blm bitches. Stop trying to cancel other people's shit.

You should have ended your statement with the first sentence and started it with the middle part dude because all I read was the first sentence before making up my mind. I had to remake up my mind.

If social media platforms cannot exist as utilities, then they need to be shut down if they are going to harm democracy.

This post was edited by Superman on Feb 5 2022 12:07pm

Whatever, I do what I want.

You get that talking point from Brian Stelter or Don Lemon? Rachael Maddow maybe? Every time I tune into them they're talking about how Fox News or Joe Rogan or Steven Crowder's latest talking point is "Misinformation that's harming democracy."

No, people expressing viewpoints that differ from yours does NOT harm democracy. No, having some platforms that dedicate themselves to a particular ideological stance does NOT harm democracy. Having a variety of different sources that all promote their stance is called functioning democracy.

You see, in a functioning democracy, everyone can have and argue their own political stances and opinions. US Law has determined that private for-profit companies have all the same rights as individuals. Thus, any attempt to limit the ability of social media platforms' freedom of association or freedom of speech is a violation of their Constitutionally guaranteed rights.

Unless they're a utility. As of this moment, they have not been classed as utilities any more than GoFundMe has. So, if you want to make the argument for why they should be classed as utilities, do so. Hell, I'll probably agree with you. Until they are reclassed as such, however, stop trying to strip them of their Constitutionally guaranteed rights, those are the actions of a filthy fascist, and unbefitting behavior for you.

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I actually came up with it myself. I don't care about what political viewpoint one has. I care about their ability to express those viewpoints. Hypothetically, I have the right to threaten murder, that does not mean there's no consequences for doing do. Hypothetically, I actually have the freedom to murder my neighbor, but there'd be "rather uncomfortable" consequences.

Also, If social media giants censor politicians to the point of affecting the outcome of a presidential election. I would have no qualm with them being designated as an enemy of the state and having their constitutional rights stripped in order to be shut down.

Whether or not I agree with what he said, we don't have a functional democracy because they censored POTUS. Also, the rest of the world doesn't get a vote in our elections. Exactly like I, as a US citizen, can't vote for the next Prime Minisister of Germany.

This post was edited by Superman on Feb 5 2022 01:35pm

Odd flex. To people who watched CNN in 2020, or MSNBC/NBC, any channel/service owned by Disney, ABC, CBS, etc. their watching time was full of nothing but Democrat ad campaigns, the news pundits were all pro-Democrat, etc. They also cut off Presidential speeches, or refused to air them. To people who watched Fox News, there was a bit more balance, they have/had multiple contributors who are Democrats, but the leaning is more towards the Republican side. To viewers of The Blaze, Daily Wire, Breitbart, RT, etc. the leaning was absolutely Republican, and the advertising was mostly Republican. Why? To influence the outcome of the election.

Do you want all these media and news companies shut down too? Or is it just maybe possible that having outlets that cater to a certain viewpoint can be useful in helping inform people enough to make up their own minds? If you go to Youtube, left-leaning content creators such as The Young Turks and major media companies like CNN are heavily promoted. Go to Rumble, right leaning content creators, politicians, and right leaning media companies are more heavily promoted. Go to Minds or gab or parlor, right leaning speech is heavily favored. Should they all be shut down, since they could influence the outcome of an election?

The point is not, and never was, to make companies impartial. If Facebook/Twitter/Youtube only wants the politics of Democrats allowed, that's fine. If another platform pops up that provides the same service that only wants the politics of Republicans allowed, that's fine too. They aren't the "enemy of the state" in any way. Everyone is allowed to their right to "influence" elections. Every time you discuss politics you're attempting to influence elections. Foreigners who've never been to the US (especially that sauci character) are constantly trying to influence our elections. That's neither wrong, nor illegal. The question, and the ONLY question, is whether Social Media giants such as YouTwitFace, Rumble, etc. should be classed as Utilities, or acknowledged as simple private companies who have the right to freedom of association.



Nobody is required to give air time to POTUS. No element of media. They can choose to do so, or not to do so. Are you going to call CNN the enemy of the state because they cut off a bunch of his speeches, or didn't air them at all?

YouTwitFace did not prevent or alter your vote. You made your own decision on who to vote for, just like anyone else. The fact that YouTwitFace may have altered their content guidelines in a way that could influence you to vote Democrat rather than Republican? Vary out your source material. If you're getting all your information from Social Media, your information level sucks.

Media has been determining what we see and hear from and about our politicians since we became a nation. And their right to do so is engrained in the First Amendment. While inconvenient, that's what it is.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Feb 5 2022 01:44pm