Quote (ChronFather420 @ Dec 21 2021 05:05pm)

Eh if they come for me, only one of us is coming out of it. It probably wont be me, but I have a duty to not follow unjust enforcement and laws on people's natural rights, and this is the hill im willing to die on. If I do die, it will be by the hands of government and not COVID. Ill let you justify the internment camps that are bound to come. "Dey just doin der jahb mista"

When you disagree, you disagree. I have a natural right to control what goes in my body whether you like it or not. I dont need this right to be given to me, it is mine. If they want to stop me from earning a living or supporting myself, there will be a problem.

Also, how do you feel about people who got the shot and still spread covid? They get a pass over people without the shot who spread it? Do people with the shot have a right to spread the disease or no? Get the jab and suddenly youre free to spread it as you please, like Jesus washing away your sins, Fauci washes away your personal liability?

When everybody is "vaccinated" and cases are still rampant what will your excuses be then? What would be the "end" of this for you? No more cases? No more deaths?

Quote (BeeetleJuice @ 21 Dec 2021 10:26)

Trump is fully vaccinated + got the booster shot.

Why would he do this if covid is a hoax and the vaccines are dangerous? He is a very stable genius. Does this prove the vaccines are actually beneficial?

I have been pro Vax all along. Just curious about the anti vax die hard Trump supporters. Does this change your opinion about Trump or the vaccines??

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Quote (Nibthebarb @ Dec 21 2021 05:40pm)

Seems like you're Thor's multi :rofl:

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Quote (ChronFather420 @ Dec 21 2021 05:48pm)

When the forces against you are radical, you cant fight back with reason. If my body being my body is radical, then so be it, im radical. I find it absolutely insane that there hasnt been an uprising against this. Criminals being released from prison because its not safe, meanwhile arresting people for not following the vaxx pass rules. WHEW! Home invasion and burglary, youre fine just get outta here! Trying to run a business because you have bills to pay? YOURE ABBHORENT!

Quote (Sioux @ Dec 21 2021 08:04pm)

I don't remember all these anti-vaxxers screaming give me liberty or give me death over the tdap vaccine

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 21 2021 03:17pm)

best scam is qanon, seek help clown

Quote (AvanineCommuter @ Dec 21 2021 03:18pm)

Ironically, one of the main points of critical thinking we were taught in undergrad was always to think OUTSIDE the box - and that’s pretty much what I’ve been doing. That doesn’t turn me into a conspiracy theorist like you because I actually have critical thinking skills. But do tell me more about what you know about an Ivy education beyond what your anti-Ivy conservative news tells you.

But back to the point - Fox News - thoughts?

Quote (Nibthebarb @ Dec 21 2021 05:40pm)

Seems like you're Thor's multi :rofl:

Quote (AvanineCommuter @ Dec 21 2021 04:55pm)

Whether or not you believe that number doesn’t matter - facts are facts. If you knew anything about epidemiology, you’d know that death counts are actually UNDERCOUNTED, especially during a pandemic, somewhere upwards of 20%. Simply compare excess deaths per year, regardless of cause of death, and you’ll see a huge spike in 2020 and 2021 in which the official tally of Covid-19 attributed deaths don’t even match.

If you’re going to be skeptical of statistics, at least make sure you understand the fundamentals.

I wasn’t a huge proponent of the protests during the pandemic, not because I don’t agree with what they were protesting (I do), but because it went against public health policy. So there’s that.

In that regard, I don’t know if there was any legal precedent on one right impacting another and how it was resolved. Either way, you don’t have a right to not get vaccinated during a global pandemic if vaccine mandates are imposed. And until the supreme court says otherwise, tant pis.