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Your first quote says just over 1 million and also substantiates what I said about the prison population being significantly lower than the United States. So that is not a gotcha. And your second quote on the Holodomor leaves out that the reason people in the cities starved is that the kulaks and Ukrainian anti-communists destroyed 50% of the crops as a tactic to fight the USSR. Saying that’s Stalin’s fault when he was actively sending food aid and the nationalists are the ones who destroyed the crops is ridiculous. look up Isaac Mazepa (Ukrainian anti communist nationalist) if you want to read more on this. This is a typical western liberal re-write of history to bash communists.

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Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 24 2021 11:38am)
"centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader". sounds very communist :rolleyes:


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_mortality_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin

pretty accurate information, more or less, about the communism's wonders.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_mortality_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin

pretty accurate information, more or less, about the communism's wonders.



I don’t think you even read these things you post.

Some gems:

“Estimates of the number of deaths attributable to the Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin vary widely. Some scholars assert that record-keeping of the executions of political prisoners and ethnic minorities are neither reliable nor complete,[1] while others contend that archival materials declassified in 1991 contain irrefutable data far superior to sources used prior to 1991 such as statements from emigres and other informants”

“…overestimated fertility rates and underrated the impact of assimilation, through which many Ukrainians were redesignated as Russians in the 1939 census, confusing population deficits, which included unborn children, with excess deaths.”

“Ellman states that mass deaths from famines are not a "uniquely Stalinist evil", mentiioning that throughout Russian history famines and droughts have been a common occurrence, including the Russian famine of 1921–22, which occurred before Stalin came to power. He also states that famines were widespread throughout the world in the 19th and 20th centuries in countries such as China, India, Ireland, and Russia.[14] Ellman compared the behaviour of the Stalinist regime vis-à-vis the Holodomor to that of the British government (towards Ireland and India) and the G8 in contemporary times. According to Ellman, the G8 "are guilty of mass manslaughter or mass deaths from criminal negligence because of their not taking obvious measures to reduce mass deaths" and Stalin's "behaviour was no worse than that of many rulers in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries."”

It’s mostly western propaganda. Made up by the government, people with an agenda, and the liberal media. And you fell for it.



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Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 24 2021 11:38am)
"centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader". sounds very communist :rolleyes:


dictator commie stalin

1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

Fascism Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary › fascism

From the time he first began to visit the dacha, Stalin was signing death warrants for his Communist Party rivals, intellectuals, military officers and others. State archives show that he personally signed orders to kill at least 40,000 people — and lived in fear that some enemy would assassinate him.Feb 20, 2014

Sochi Was Once A Vacation Spot Fit For A Dictator - NPR
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I don’t think you even read these things you post.

Some gems:

“Estimates of the number of deaths attributable to the Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin vary widely. Some scholars assert that record-keeping of the executions of political prisoners and ethnic minorities are neither reliable nor complete,[1] while others contend that archival materials declassified in 1991 contain irrefutable data far superior to sources used prior to 1991 such as statements from emigres and other informants”

“…overestimated fertility rates and underrated the impact of assimilation, through which many Ukrainians were redesignated as Russians in the 1939 census, confusing population deficits, which included unborn children, with excess deaths.”

“Ellman states that mass deaths from famines are not a "uniquely Stalinist evil", mentiioning that throughout Russian history famines and droughts have been a common occurrence, including the Russian famine of 1921–22, which occurred before Stalin came to power. He also states that famines were widespread throughout the world in the 19th and 20th centuries in countries such as China, India, Ireland, and Russia.[14] Ellman compared the behaviour of the Stalinist regime vis-à-vis the Holodomor to that of the British government (towards Ireland and India) and the G8 in contemporary times. According to Ellman, the G8 "are guilty of mass manslaughter or mass deaths from criminal negligence because of their not taking obvious measures to reduce mass deaths" and Stalin's "behaviour was no worse than that of many rulers in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries."”

It’s mostly western propaganda. Made up by the government, people with an agenda, and the liberal media. And you fell for it.


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Quote (inkanddagger @ Nov 24 2021 04:53pm)
I don’t think you even read these things you post.

Some gems:

“Estimates of the number of deaths attributable to the Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin vary widely. Some scholars assert that record-keeping of the executions of political prisoners and ethnic minorities are neither reliable nor complete,[1] while others contend that archival materials declassified in 1991 contain irrefutable data far superior to sources used prior to 1991 such as statements from emigres and other informants”

“…overestimated fertility rates and underrated the impact of assimilation, through which many Ukrainians were redesignated as Russians in the 1939 census, confusing population deficits, which included unborn children, with excess deaths.”

“Ellman states that mass deaths from famines are not a "uniquely Stalinist evil", mentiioning that throughout Russian history famines and droughts have been a common occurrence, including the Russian famine of 1921–22, which occurred before Stalin came to power. He also states that famines were widespread throughout the world in the 19th and 20th centuries in countries such as China, India, Ireland, and Russia.[14] Ellman compared the behaviour of the Stalinist regime vis-à-vis the Holodomor to that of the British government (towards Ireland and India) and the G8 in contemporary times. According to Ellman, the G8 "are guilty of mass manslaughter or mass deaths from criminal negligence because of their not taking obvious measures to reduce mass deaths" and Stalin's "behaviour was no worse than that of many rulers in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries."”

It’s mostly western propaganda. Made up by the government, people with an agenda, and the liberal media. And you fell for it.


Stalin was a mass murdering marxist jew. Enemy of the entire world.

Edit: Marx was also a jew.

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Stalin was a mass murdering marxist jew. Enemy of the entire world.

Edit: Marx was also a jew.



He barely killed anyone. If anything he didn’t kill enough. And he’s the person responsible for defeating Hitler.
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He barely killed anyone. If anything he didn’t kill enough. And he’s the person responsible for defeating Hitler.


Even lame ass Wackypedia knows you are full of shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_mortality_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin
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