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dude, you're literally just brainlessly regurgitating what FOX and other right wing propaganda outlets tell you is happening. you're completely brainwashed and lack perspective of what's actually happening in politics. an actual caricature of a right winger these days. no wonder you lick billionaire boot so eagerly...


imagine still being in denial of leftist LGBT cancer culture being perfect for subjugation of the populace thus being the reason American imperialism is actively merging with leftism

yes yes you are the resistance, LAWL




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the whole country has moved left on social issues, and the social issues that you care about in particular are almost entirely fabrications because Republicans need something to demonize


lets look at totally non fabricared Democratic party issues 2021

oh... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA



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They really haven't.

Do you think that in 2004/08/12 more than half the field in the democratic presidential primary would have raised their hand for open borders and free healthcare for illegal immigrants?


Do you think it would have contained a guy openly saying "hell yes, we're gonna take away your AR-15s"?



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Like CRT, a wholly fabricated issue by Republicans that is not taught outside of graduate programs that a large portion of the country, you included, completely fell for.

Of course CRT in a narrow sense is an academic framework and far beyond the scope of high school classes - but this does not preclude its core tenets (racial essentialism, collective guilt) from seeping into school curricula all over the country.


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The most common argument is "Oh you can't have mass immigration and a good welfare system" which is demonstrably false, since Europe allows people to move about via the EU and has a robust safety net, and we had stronger safety nets prior to the 80's and much less immigration restriction.

The EU example is crap, you don't know what you're talking about in this specific regard. The movement of workers between EU countries with different levels of social safety nets is causing a TON of frictions and abuse; it has strained the housing markets in Western Europe and fueled xenophobia long before the non-EU migration picked up pace in 2014ff. Without this intra-EU migration, there would be no Brexit.

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Trans issues are virtually non-existant among most Democrats.

It's not just about trans issues, Democrats/liberals have also moved sharply to the left on feminism/women's issues.



Quote (fender @ 21 Nov 2021 12:44)
dude, you're literally just brainlessly regurgitating what FOX and other right wing propaganda outlets tell you is happening. you're completely brainwashed and lack perspective of what's actually happening in politics. an actual caricature of a right winger these days. no wonder you lick billionaire boot so eagerly...

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We moved staunchly to the right on Immigration, and it's largely resulted in the accumulation of illegal immigrants, not prevention.

Laughable.


Republican stances on immigration are roughly where they were back in 1998 while Democrats have zoomed left on the issue.

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Do you think that in 2004/08/12 more than half the field in the democratic presidential primary would have raised their hand for open borders and free healthcare for illegal immigrants?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMSmoNOZJ9Y

Do you think it would have contained a guy openly saying "hell yes, we're gonna take away your AR-15s"?

Of course CRT in a narrow sense is an academic framework and far beyond the scope of high school classes - but this does not preclude its core tenets (racial essentialism, collective guilt) from seeping into school curricula all over the country.

The EU example is crap, you don't know what you're talking about in this specific regard. The movement of workers between EU countries with different levels of social safety nets is causing a TON of frictions and abuse; it has strained the housing markets in Western Europe and fueled xenophobia long before the non-EU migration picked up pace in 2014ff. Without this intra-EU migration, there would be no Brexit.

It's not just about trans issues, Democrats/liberals have also moved sharply to the left on feminism/women's issues.

Laughable.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/samuels-immigration-0325-2.png

Republican stances on immigration are roughly where they were back in 1998 while Democrats have zoomed left on the issue.


The fact that you think race essentialism and collective guilt are part of CRT just shows how little you've learned about it and how hard you've bought into the propaganda.

Dude, I specifically cited the 80's as when this all started, and you link a graph showing attitudes from 1996 and cite 2012 as an example of Democrats attitudes. Go back and read the conversation because this isn't worth responding to.


Also lol @ "they moved left on feminisim and women's issues". And that's a bad thing? LOL. TIL Black thinks women should stay in the kitchen and just deal with it when their boss tries to trade sex for a promotion.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Nov 21 2021 06:12am
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The fact that you think race essentialism and collective guilt are part of CRT just shows how little you've learned about it and how hard you've bought into the propaganda.

Dude, I specifically cited the 80's as when this all started, and you link a graph showing attitudes from 1996 and cite 2012 as an example of Democrats being far right. Go back and read the conversation because this isn't worth responding to.


I was specifically talking about "recent years" and you keep deflecting with political shifts from the 80s and use these in a pathetic attempt at downplaying the massive leftward movement of Democrats between the 90s and today. :rofl:

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Also lol @ "they moved left on feminisim and women's issues". And that's a bad thing? LOL. TIL Black thinks women should stay in the kitchen and just deal with it when their boss tries to trade sex for a promotion.

No?! Who says that every movement to the left is a bad thing? I never claimed that, I just stated that such a movement to the left exists.

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I was specifically talking about "recent years" and you keep deflecting with political shifts from the 80s and use these in a pathetic attempt at downplaying the massive leftward movement of Democrats between the 90s and today. :rofl:

No?! Who says that every movement to the left is a bad thing? I never claimed that, I just stated that this movement to the left exists.


I told you why they moved left recently, because its a break from the larger trend of moving radically further right since the 80. The fact that you think a poll from 2012 means anything in that context shows you're being dumb or dishonest, and you've been SUPER dishonest lately...

I also said that democrats haven't moved further left than society has in any meaningful capacity, and the examples where you think they have are boogeymen. Immigration more falls into the economic category IMO.

Are you drunk? This convo has only been like 5 minutes long and you're forgetting things already.

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The fact that you think race essentialism and collective guilt are part of CRT just shows how little you've learned about it and how hard you've bought into the propaganda.


they are a part of CRT because the Lefty race hustler trash responsible for pushing the collective white racial guilt are calling it CRT

sounds like your "the REAL CRT" got co-opted pretty hard while those you wrongfully put on a pedestal seem to have sat idly and did nothing about it, thus why now you are reduced to Denial-driven mental gymnastics of doing that "NOT REAL SOCIALISM CRT !!!!" meme

unlucky, CRT in 2021 is pushing the idea whites are lesser because of their skin color
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Meme poll, it's been an alt right chamber for a while now
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the Fart-Left robotically identifying the noble pursuit of equality as supposedly some CTRL-ALT-DELETE-RIGHT thingy - a perfect demonstration how far left the Leftists fell off a cliff

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name the people on the left


you. i doubt you actually care about the constitution or its foundational philosophy.

santara is a libertarian, you're just a dude holding his finger in the wind.
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