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Nov 4 2021 03:06pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 4 2021 03:33pm)
broad questions are almost always popular, people nearly never agree on specifics.


That's not a broad question though. Should the federal government pay for family leave only leaves out time frame.
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Nov 4 2021 03:13pm
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That's not a broad question though. Should the federal government pay for family leave only leaves out time frame.


maybe i missed a link to a specific poll, but when i hear the phrase paid family leave i dont assume it will be paid for by the government.
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Nov 4 2021 03:21pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 4 2021 04:13pm)
maybe i missed a link to a specific poll, but when i hear the phrase paid family leave i dont assume it will be paid for by the government.


It's the last two sentences of the post
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Nov 4 2021 03:32pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Nov 4 2021 04:21pm)
It's the last two sentences of the post


Right, i read it but thought it came from icemage or tcock so missed on reskimming.

my point would be if u further break down specifics you quickly get to a point where its hard to get votes for it. and polling majorities dont always equate to voting majorities, people get cold feet in a real number.

i earnestly dont think that you'd get votes for the govt to fund paid leave for families if they laid out the exact proposal. too much, too little, too long, too short, etc. all kinds of objections, let alone legal challenges.

this has been the crux of legalized pot, despite a voting majority on legalization generally, for decades. DUI, age of legal use, etc always causes hurdles.

republicans do the same with safe border talk, who doesnt want a safe border? who wants cartel to have an open pathway? but specifics? forget about it
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Nov 4 2021 03:38pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 4 2021 04:32pm)
Right, i read it but thought it came from icemage or tcock so missed on reskimming.
my point would be if u further break down specifics you quickly get to a point where its hard to get votes for it. and polling majorities dont always equate to voting majorities, people get cold feet in a real number.
i earnestly dont think that you'd get votes for the govt to fund paid leave for families if they laid out the exact proposal. too much, too little, too long, too short, etc. all kinds of objections, let alone legal challenges.
this has been the crux of legalized pot, despite a voting majority on legalization generally, for decades. DUI, age of legal use, etc always causes hurdles.
republicans do the same with safe border talk, who doesnt want a safe border? who wants cartel to have an open pathway? but specifics? forget about it


In an ideal world that's why we have representatives. If "6 weeks of federal government paid family leave at 75% of your typical wage" is overwhelmingly popular, which there's no doubt it would be, then it will get passed and they will work out the kinks in the chambers.

Unfortunately we live in a world where public polling doesn't really mean shit if the billionaires aren't also on board.
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Nov 4 2021 03:39pm
no and neither should people like trump
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In an ideal world that's why we have representatives. If "6 weeks of federal government paid family leave at 75% of your typical wage" is overwhelmingly popular, which there's no doubt it would be, then it will get passed and they will work out the kinks in the chambers.

Unfortunately we live in a world where public polling doesn't really mean shit if the billionaires aren't also on board.


U announce it requires a raise in taxes or a raise in deficit and support drops off i bet
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Nov 4 2021 04:07pm
Just set up value added taxes and nobody escapes paying taxes except using crypto to evade them I guess which is being done now lol.
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Nov 4 2021 04:25pm
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U announce it requires a raise in taxes or a raise in deficit and support drops off i bet


Since when has that stopped anything?

The public doesn't actually care about that unless they're fed a steady diet of propaganda. It's just a bludgeon against denocrats rather than an actual concern
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Nov 4 2021 06:35pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Nov 4 2021 05:25pm)
Since when has that stopped anything?

The public doesn't actually care about that unless they're fed a steady diet of propaganda. It's just a bludgeon against denocrats rather than an actual concern


I mean then im left in a place where I vote no based on deficit and maybe no based on the tax allocation
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