Quote (sirthom @ Oct 15 2021 03:02pm)

No, laws can never supersede your inalienable rights. That's why it is worded that way. So that no matter who disagrees with you, your opinions or anything you believe; laws CAN'T be made to take your rights. Any attempt to do so is unconstitutional, illegal and goes against every principle this country was found on.

Quote (sirthom @ Oct 15 2021 05:02pm)

No, laws can never supersede your inalienable rights. That's why it is worded that way. So that no matter who disagrees with you, your opinions or anything you believe; laws CAN'T be made to take your rights. Any attempt to do so is unconstitutional, illegal and goes against every principle this country was found on.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 15 2021 05:09pm)

So then how are there jails where that exact thing happens?

Quote (sirthom @ Oct 15 2021 03:16pm)

It's called injustice. Even though it may exist, it does not set a precedent and two wrongs don't make a left.

Quote (sirthom @ Oct 15 2021 05:16pm)

It's called injustice. Even though it may exist, it does not set a precedent and two wrongs don't make a left.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 15 2021 06:35pm)

So its' injustice to jail somebody for murder?

Quote (sirthom @ Oct 15 2021 07:12pm)

Hmmmm, perhaps I misinterpreted your last question. Could you rephrase it please?

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 15 2021 07:14pm)

Your rights can be taken away, since jail exists.

So your rights aren't "inalienable". They are quite alienable.

Quote (sirthom @ Oct 15 2021 07:42pm)

Jail does not exclude you rights. You have the inalienable right to justice. Justice by definition includes the law. Laws include the possibility of punishment.

However, unjust laws that go against your rights are unconstitutional and invalid.

This is dealing with natural law as well.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 15 2021 07:46pm)

So your rights can be taken away as long as it goes through the legal system?