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Apr 6 2021 01:19pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 6 2021 02:11pm)
So there are other gods?



Do you not know what a straw-man is :huh:



Just deflect. It is you who claimed that Baptist are your reference for Christianity. Then you claimed that we believe that the reason Jesus was tortured in hell was because he needed to understand what pain was. And then from that strawman you went on to say that God Being omniscient already understood what pain was therefore it was unnecessary for Jesus to be tortured in Hell. You’ve also claimed to know how God experiences pain. Then you said that God’s pain had no meaning. I have asked for biblical references regarding any Of your ignorant claims.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 6 2021 02:17pm)
that's simply another assumption.

you're assuming "time" in hell exists. whereas is possible, imo even more likely, that hell is in itself an eternity. that going there transcends time. that jesus "life" before his birth on earth, his "life" in heaven after he was resurrected, etc are just simple eternities that run parallel to his eternity in hell. yes, 3 days on earth, but in hell?

this is why from the jump i chose to ask what i did. u havent given a convincing answer for why hell is anything but infinity.

in other words, god went to hell through jesus and experienced the infinity that was hell. his resurrection doesnt wipe away this pain, nor do you have any solid logic that ive seen to suggest his "time" there was painless.


Did you just in our last conversation about hell say that you're open to hell not being eternal? Seems like you're contradicting yourself when it's convenient.
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Apr 6 2021 01:22pm
Quote (Jesus_Lives @ Apr 6 2021 02:19pm)
Just deflect. It is you who claimed that Baptist are your reference for Christianity. Then you claimed that we believe that the reason Jesus was tortured in hell was because he needed to understand what pain was. And then from that strawman you went on to say that God Being omniscient already understood what pain was therefore it was unnecessary for Jesus to be tortured in Hell. You’ve also claimed to know how God experiences pain. Then you said that God’s pain had no meaning. I have asked for biblical references regarding any Of your ignorant claims.


I did not say that Jesus needed to understand what pain was. You are literally just making that up. In fact, the first post you accused me of saying this you had a post where I explicitly say the opposite.
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Apr 6 2021 01:23pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Apr 6 2021 12:10pm)
God went through what a God went through for our sakes is proof of love.
even if one wants to say he just gave up a weekend. What kind of person would think a God should give more than that any way?
any other god would of flushed it all.



Fortunately there was Enoch, & Noah to set precedent ;)
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Apr 6 2021 01:25pm
Of course Jesus felt pain. Did you not see the pain and anguish in him when the chosen one fell to the Dark Side?



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Quote (Surfpunk @ Apr 6 2021 12:25pm)
Of course Jesus felt pain. Did you not see the pain and anguish in him when the chosen one fell to the Dark Side?

https://pm1.narvii.com/7071/1fbcb5da1c31bc65cf5e8eec01ccef4400b0fecfr1-704-435v2_hq.jpg

https://media4.giphy.com/media/3o84szW0PrWZyUv0mA/200.gif


Many are called (few) < 3 are chosen.


This post was edited by lodd222 on Apr 6 2021 01:29pm
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 6 2021 02:22pm)
I did not say that Jesus needed to understand what pain was. You are literally just making that up. In fact, the first post you accused me of saying this you had a post where I explicitly say the opposite.



By saying the opposite you are claiming that Baptist believe the thing you are arguing against and that is a straw man.
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Apr 6 2021 01:33pm
Quote (Jesus_Lives @ Apr 6 2021 12:19pm)
Just deflect. It is you who claimed that Baptist are your reference for Christianity. Then you claimed that we believe that the reason Jesus was tortured in hell was because he needed to understand what pain was. And then from that strawman you went on to say that God Being omniscient already understood what pain was therefore it was unnecessary for Jesus to be tortured in Hell. You’ve also claimed to know how God experiences pain. Then you said that God’s pain had no meaning. I have asked for biblical references regarding any Of your ignorant claims.


force him onto scripture or he will engage in irreverent talk indefinitely. if a person cant make his case with scripture they dont have a case
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Quote (TiStuff @ Apr 6 2021 02:33pm)
force him onto scripture or he will engage in irreverent talk indefinitely. if a person cant make his case with scripture they dont have a case



Ya i see that.
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Quote (TiStuff @ Apr 6 2021 12:33pm)
force him onto scripture or he will engage in irreverent talk indefinitely. if a person cant make his case with scripture they dont have a case




Gone are the days where you could just 5-0 them on a hammerdin then read them scripture when they submit.
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