BLM is a social justice movement that I do not support. The movement has accomplished nothing positive, and caused minority communities to be looted and burned, and directly led to dozens of deaths and thousands of injuries.

Why do you want to force people to say "Black Lives Matter"? In an attempt to accord people's illegal acts validity based on the color of their skin.

Making a lot of assumptions again.

I think BLM has done a lot of good, most notably it's brought the severe police abuse of minorities specifically and the poor in general into the light.

Police Brutality has been a cause people have been fighting against for longer than I've been alive. The attempt to racialize it minimizes the impact Police Brutality has against ALL of it's victims.

Your attempt to claim BLM has accomplished some mythical "heightened" awareness is simply false.

You know Russia interference was proven AND ALL of the documentation regarding it has been released right?


Literally a quote from RObert Mueller which was broadcasted on TV

Now, does that say there was no obstruction?
No.
Could you charge the president with a crime

after he left office?

Yes.

You believe that he committed,

you could charge the President of the United States

with obstruction of justice after he left office?

Yes.

Heres a link to the video:

https://www.newyorker.com/video/watch/robert-mueller-on-whether-trump-could-be-indicted

This post was edited by Crunkt on Feb 8 2021 04:43pm

So to rioting etc.. its all sucks and all shitty no excuse.
the statement BLM is supposed to be a statement of "we also matter" it would be typical for white people to be offended by this.
a simple yes they do is all the majority of black people are looking for.. Instead they get semantic arguments which just proves the point.
circle jerk ensues.

"Black Lives Matter" is an organizational movement, not a statement. Calling people racist for refusing to participate in a movement that has directly harmed minority communities is simply pointless and stupid.

If "Black Lives Matter" were indeed supposed to be a statement "we also matter" then then simple, "OF COURSE black lives matter. All lives matter" would be perfectly satisfying. Once again, the attempt to elevate black lives above brown, yellow, red, or white lives attributes special status, and is inherently racist.

Nobody's offended by the simple statement that black lives matter. Of course they do, every bit as much as everyone else's life. It's not the statement that bothers people. It's the actions of the movement. And I would question whether the supporters of the movement believe what they claim. "If black lives matter, then why are you burning down black communities, why have you killed and injured black people in your riots, and why are you destroying black-owned and run businesses that are attempting to service primarily-black communities?"

Rational people do not judge something based on it's claims, but instead it's actions. You can say, "I support black people and want to see them treated fairly" and then go and beat down the first black person you see. Words are meaningless. When the ACTIONS of the BLM movement show that they BELIEVE black lives matter, and instead of using their funding to promote chaos, crime, and violence, instead use it to raise up and improve their communities, I'll fall 100% in line as a supporter. For now, they're simply a race-based criminal movement.

Not every black person that uses the statement “Black lives matter” is part of an organized political movement. They are stating they feel overly persecuted. Like I said circle jerk ensues. Here we go!

Dem eevil demonRATS think they is tha intelectials but they gots the big dumb. Not like us smort repoblicans. We hav the strongest biggest brians! Not liek week lefty brians!

You realize you spelled intellectuals incorrectly right?

Why the fall back on "not every black person"? Factually speaking, not every black person supports BLM in any way, shape, or form, and many have gone on the record as saying the usage of the term "Black Lives Matter" is racist and simply being used to justify crime. But just as the BLM movement and it's looting, burning, and violent rioting does not represent "Black People" and instead only those who participate in and support it (many of whom are not black), neither does the opinions of black opponents of BLM represent all black people.

If a person is being persecuted, then they need to take appropriate legal recourse to end that persecution and obtain appropriate redress of injury. Assassinating police who were not involved in any form of Brutality is neither legal, morally justified, or a proper redress of injury for somebody else suffering an injustice. It was the BLM movement itself that spawned the "Blue Lives Matter" movement after dozens of police who had nothing to do with any form of Brutality were murdered simply for trying to keep their communities safe.

The "coming together" that was mentioned prior would be a simple agreement:
Police Brutality is illegal and should be prosecuted.
Murder, rioting, looting, and burning is illegal and should be prosecuted.
If life is sacred, then all lives matter. That includes all ethnicities, genders, and ages.

If we cannot agree on those three basic concepts, we cannot come together. If you support police brutality, which is translated as unlawful violence by police above and beyond that required to carry out their duty, then likely 99.99% of Americans despise you. If you cannot agree that Murder, rioting, looting, and burning is bad, then you're a danger to society, and the majority of Americans despise you, and frankly since you wish to remove other people's rights to life and property you deserve 100% to have it happen to you. If you cannot agree that life is sacred, then in that case the very precept of "Black Lives Matter" is false and the entire discussion is just pointless virtue signaling.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Feb 8 2021 05:50pm