Fuckers that support abortion lie about abortion deaths.

Before abortion was legal, black market abortion deaths were in the single digits per year.

When your only method of argument is lying propaganda, you know your argument is wrong.

Inaction is action. By not giving somebody life-saving medicine you are making a choice. It's not a fallacy, it's in inability to recognize this.

After 23 weeks it comes down to a conflict of rights. Mother's right to bodily autonomy and the fetus' right to life. Which wins is a matter of opinion. I'd say that in cases of involuntary impregnation virtually nobody says that the mother's right doesn't win. In "normal" cases I'm undecided.

You'll have to be a lot more specific on your claim, what time period are you talking about. I'm not sure how anyone would be able to come up with statistics of deaths caused by illegal procedures to begin with. Doesn't really seem like something that would have been reported accurately. "Hi, I would like to report this death, we had a mishap with an illegal abortion."

The number is hardly relevant though to my standpoint.

Abortion has been a human practice since human existence. Thousands of years.

There is nothing we can do to make it illegal. Since it can't be prevented, it might as well be made more safe for the women.

It's interesting that a multifaceted approach including sexual education, access to contraception and healthcare, and open availability of a variety of options actually leads to less abortions. If the serious outcome is to lower the number of abortions, it's not really about banning the procedure as much as it is improving the circumstances that lead to the procedure.

Of course you fucking can.

When you make it free, its a moral hazard that forms a positive feedback loop. I doubt you will ever know what that means.

by that logic, we're all murderers for not helping starving kids in africa, etc. i hear where youre coming from, but its not the same at all. at the very least, theres only so much we can do in terms of preventing deaths from inaction. that doesnt mean that we should actively participate in making more.


life is life, 23 weeks is arbitrary. yes, not all fertilized eggs will make it to birth, but again, that doesnt excuse actively killing them. two separate and distinct actions. if someone willingly engages in sex, knowing that they might create a life, they are giving up their right to their bodily autonomy and have no right to destroy that life once its created.

23 weeks isn't arbitrary at all. Its the earliest time a fetus develops brain activity. No brain, no personhood.

The person is guaranteed to develop personhood. All the life and memories that they would have formed were erased by your callous lack of empathy.

Explaining empathy to a Democrat is a lost cause though.

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Youre an exceptional level of stupid but this is dumb even for you.

By this logic we should always reproduce at every opportunity.

early Catholics.

"Breed them out"

>Call Catholics stupid
>All of the other cultures have a low fertility rate so they will literally be extinct and no one will care