I agree Hawley is done for. He will forever be etched into history with this absolutely disastrous image:


He's slick and smart enough to remain senator from MO if he wants to, but if he ever aims for higher office again, this image will be brought up again and kill his ambitions.

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Which is the right thing to do. The former president inevitable possesses a lot of info which is critical to national security. Leaving him without security detail would make it too easy for foreign powers to kidnap him and extort this info from him.





What a pity. The following would have been by far the best and most appropriate course of action: House impeaches, vote for removal fails because that would require 17 GOP senators to break ranks, then the 50 Democrats plus Romney vote to ban him from future office nonetheless.

This way, he would be gone for good without needlessly fracturing the GOP.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 12 2021 05:26am

sure, buddy, if you say so. it was important for you to let me know, huh? thanks for sharing, i guess...

[Edited after Black pointed out my error]

They technically could, based off of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, which disqualifies someone from public office if they've been found guilty of insurrection or rebellion against the United States. My understanding is that that would be a complete long-shot, and that it has actually never been invoked/used before.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Jan 12 2021 05:47am

The first pic is actually quite apt. The thrid pic, the tweet from radical Cori Bush, is completely insane though. She's effectively proposing to expel two-thirds of GOP caucus from the House, each of them representing hundreds of thousands of voters who just cast a ballot for them two months ago. Thankfully, the Constitution requires a two-thirds majority for expelling a sitting House member.

Am I misunderstanding the 14th amendment Sec. 3?



The way I read it, the 14th amendment automatically bans someone who has engaged in insurrection against the United States from becoming president (again), and the two-thirds vote by both chambers of Congress is required to lift this ban.
The crux with this interpretation, then, would be that it would fall upon the courts to find him guilty of insurrection in the first place - and the legal bar for that is impossibly high.

once again proving your amazing level of disconnect and bias. she is the 'radical', but the members of congress she's talking about, those that tried to overturn the election and incited a deadly coup attempt, are "thankfully" safe thanks to the likely partisanship of their colleagues? because that's not radical, huh? that's fine with you, as long as YOUR guys do it. holy shit...

No, I was the one who misunderstood it. You're right, the 2/3 vote would be to permit someone to hold office who previously engaged in insurrection.

Still, there are many who think Section 3 of the 14th is another path forward, and would include various Congress members in addition to Trump. I think it's highly unlikely to be a successful path forward for those who invoke it though.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Jan 12 2021 05:47am

She's proposing to expel two-thirds of the opposition party in her chamber, lol. That's insanity. If you want a civil war, that's the way to do it.
Also, cut the crap with "incited a deadly coup attempt". The storming of the Capitol falls on Trump, instigators in right-wing media and maybe prominent supporters of Trump's stolen-election-lie like Cruz or Hawley. These House members share maybe 0.1% of the blame for the storming of the Capitol. Barely anyone took notice of their support for Trump's efforts at overturning the election. Many of them didnt even make their support for these efforts public beforehand.

I called Cori Bush a radical not because of this one tweet (although it was very radical), but because she generally exhibits and promotes nothing but radical political ideas. Ideologically, she's probably one of the most liberal members in all of Congress.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 12 2021 05:57am

"you want to hold politicians accountable for their actions? that'll lead to civil war!"

yeah i'm glad that the current way of protecting everyone, no matter what they do, as long as they share the magic (R) with you, has lead to peace, unity, understanding and totally not put america right at the brink of a "civil war", lol.

"Coddle us more."

Fake law and order party.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jan 12 2021 06:35am