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Jan 8 2021 09:36pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 8 2021 10:25pm)
Man you have a simplistic world view.


The 17th amendment provides for the direct election of senators. As a result, Senators are directly elected by their constituents, and are thus responsible to them.

We can't blame Senators for responding to this and acting increasingly like Congressmen, we were the ones who pulled the trigger.
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Jan 9 2021 12:05am
Quote (bogie160 @ Jan 8 2021 10:08pm)
Calling this a "violent coup attempt" is beyond ridiculous.

The Senate represents and is accountable to their constituents. If they are not reining in a president it's because their constituents likely support the president. This is democracy in action.

You are ranting and raving. Try to make a coherent point that is a value add to this forum.


"Gnashing of teeth" comes to mind.
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Jan 9 2021 02:10am
Looking with true honestly:

The anti-Trump media spin has been so fierce that Trump has done nothing that will be viewed as good, and even objectively decent actions will be viewed poorly.

I do not believe Trump is leaving a legacy for the near future. It'll take 30 or 40 years for history to view him objectively.

Thus, 100% negative. Trump was worthless, regardless of facts. And, we know who the "teaching class" truly is. The same people who aren't at risk but claiming they're risking their lives by... Teaching.

Trump help gave voice to tens of millions of people, nearly a hundred million people, who've fared rough under a government that seeks to extract wealth from the working population to build it's own power and seat of wealth. He failed. That's his true legacy.
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Jan 9 2021 02:15am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ 9 Jan 2021 03:10)
Looking with true honestly:

The anti-Trump media spin has been so fierce that Trump has done nothing that will be viewed as good, and even objectively decent actions will be viewed poorly.

I do not believe Trump is leaving a legacy for the near future. It'll take 30 or 40 years for history to view him objectively.

Thus, 100% negative. Trump was worthless, regardless of facts. And, we know who the "teaching class" truly is. The same people who aren't at risk but claiming they're risking their lives by... Teaching.

Trump help gave voice to tens of millions of people, nearly a hundred million people, who've fared rough under a government that seeks to extract wealth from the working population to build it's own power and seat of wealth. He failed. That's his true legacy.


the fact that he attempted to overthrow the election he threw away whatever legacy he may have had
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Jan 9 2021 02:19am
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the fact that he attempted to overthrow the election he threw away whatever legacy he may have had


This is nonsense. I gave a well-reasoned analysis of Trump's tenure, and you responded with pure subjective opinion.

Trump followed the legal process. It's a competition not a gimme. As long as he had a chance, he was well within his rights, and would have been stupid not to fight.

Al Gore followed the same procedure. Don't behave as though Trump is some outlier when it comes to utilization of the legal election process.
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Jan 9 2021 02:22am
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This is nonsense. I gave a well-reasoned analysis of Trump's tenure, and you responded with pure subjective opinion.

Trump followed the legal process. It's a competition not a gimme. As long as he had a chance, he was well within his rights, and would have been stupid not to fight.

Al Gore followed the same procedure. Don't behave as though Trump is some outlier when it comes to utilization of the legal election process.


riling up his band of hillbillies to charge the capitol during the EC vote count is well beyond the scope of the legal process

the courtroom part of his challenge amounts to vexatious litigation
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riling up his band of hillbillies to charge the capitol during the EC vote count is well beyond the scope of the legal process

the courtroom part of his challenge amounts to vexatious litigation


So you're racist AND against legal process. Okay.

BTW, Trump had millions of black, brown and yellow voters. I'm sure they'd be happy to have you categorize them as Hillbillies.

Not saying you're scum, but you are certainly a racist. :)
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Jan 9 2021 02:29am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ 9 Jan 2021 03:28)
So you're racist AND against legal process. Okay.

BTW, Trump had millions of black, brown and yellow voters. I'm sure they'd be happy to have you categorize them as Hillbillies.

Not saying you're scum, but you are certainly a racist. :)


hillbillies is not a race

and I wasn't speaking of all of his voters, I was speaking specifically of the crowd he sent to the capitol earlier this week.
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Jan 9 2021 02:31am
Quote (18nomaUSEast @ Jan 9 2021 12:29am)
hillbillies is not a race

and I wasn't speaking of all of his voters, I was speaking specifically of the crowd he sent to the capitol earlier this week.


tbh i thought alex jones sent the real crazies over there. also 4chan etc
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Jan 9 2021 02:32am
Quote (proccy @ 9 Jan 2021 03:31)
tbh i thought alex jones sent the real crazies over there. also 4chan etc


hopefully alex, don, don jr, and rudy all feel the wrath

and if the fbi can dig up a specific source of propaganda on the chans/parler/etc, toss the book at them too
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