Quote (CiroC @ Jan 7 2021 07:08am)

The difference is that the far left dictator controls everything and treats everyone equally. There is no rich or poor. Everyone would be the same.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jan 7 2021 10:24am)

Professional historians who are not progressives say I'm right. Which history do you believe? That written by socialists who are attempting to disavow one of their own by claiming that he wasn't a "true socialist" even though they follow his own propaganda tactics, or historians who believe in liberty?

Creatively rewriting history never turns out well. Again, predictions on starvation death tolls by May is 100-260 million people worldwide. We've taken absolutely fascistic measures to fight a cold. Let's exercise a moment of patience and see what the true death toll of the authoritarian left and their policies brings about.



Most laughable post ever. Stalin and Mao and Hitler and Pinochet are two sides of the same coin. Socialists and Communists. Both far leftists. None of the above have anything to do with the right. Private ownership and individual liberty is the right. None of that has anything to do with either one.

Quote (duffman316 @ Jan 7 2021 09:29am)

Somehow thats not how communism has turned out historically. Iirc they shot people trying to cross the walls they build to keep people from escaping in germany and korea.

Quote (Donahey @ 7 Jan 2021 07:35)

Pinochet was as far right as it gets. Hitler was center-right. They were all (Mao and Stalin included) Authoritarian.


You are entitled to your opinion, however wrong it may be.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 7 Jan 2021 07:35)

The history of alternatives to capitalism is pretty complicated. There are certainly issues with central planning that lead to inefficiencies, but it's also worth pointing out that when an alternative form of economic system is tried the U.S. and their allies actively isolate that country and sabotage their government, and sometimes just actively declare war.

and I will continue to bring this up until it becomes a staple of the conversation instead of a background thought.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jan 6 2021 11:30pm)

Communism and Socialism are both on the left. Nazis were leftists, they were not on the right. The right, simply put, is self-ownership and personal responsibility. The left is state ownership, and responsibility to the state. It was the ultra conservative pro-liberty (by today's standards) far right Americans who defeated the Nazis, the Soviets, and combatted the excesses of the Chinese.

Communism and Socialism are both anti-liberty. They both hand the government all the power to destroy the freedom and liberty of the individual. It's no shock that the Democratic Party of the United States of America, the party of the KKK, is now turning to socialism and communism as a way to reinstate ownership of other people.

Now before you start spewing garbage about China and the Soviet Union and other such not being "real communism" let's face the reality of human nature here: Communism always devolves down to might makes right. No utopian vision can exist without enforcement. He/She who commands the enforcers takes control and dictates the lives of all. Communism is not viable on a large stage.

Quote (theCrossbones @ 7 Jan 2021 07:43)

dude.. you are lost if you call the Nazi movement "lefty"
sorry start over.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jan 7 2021 07:48am)

No, merely accurate. This magical world vision where liberty doesn't exist and the only options are socialism or communism is a progressive pipe dream.

Sorry, the sane adults aren't smoking. Go back to fapping to cartoons in your parents basement, hero. Nobody gives a shit about your attempt to redefine life in authoritarian terms. :)