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Nov 7 2020 12:50pm
Joe Biden is on track to be the greatest President of the 21st century.
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Nov 7 2020 12:51pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 8 2020 05:48am)
The goal posts have moved dramatically.
How policy makers should be decided is not the issue.

I contested the assertion that democrats are superior and the party of science compared to the supposedly anti-science republicans.
I talked about their anti-science "CONSENSUS!" shouting strategy designed to shut down debate and thinking.
Democrats seeking to shut down and dismiss any debate and skepticism is not particularly pro-science.

I also contested the idea that people without a medical degree should be written off as 2nd grade flat earthers with no grounds for questioning people with a degree or those appointed by government.

It should be obvious that government does not have a monopoly on the truth, knowledge and science.


At some point you just have to ignore the flat earthers and climate deniers and get on with the job.
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Nov 7 2020 12:53pm
Quote (Bazi @ Nov 7 2020 01:20pm)
I imagine myself as superior (from a health standpoint) because I am a board certified internal medicine physician with an additional fellowship and board certifications in critical care ... therefore when I am refuting Trump/hannity memes with education akin to high school graduate then yes I have more objective ground to stand on. My degenerate HS drop out sister in law SHOULD NOT have the same weight as mine in THIS specific topic.

Just as I should have NO WEIGHT in deciding Nuclear energy policy when speaking about this topic with a phd physicist, despite what my “beliefs” are or how many YouTube videos I have watched

This has less to do with “blindly trusting government as arbiters or blah blah”

The accurate argument is having an equally educated person come up with counterviews and have a rational conversation. This is not akin to the average Americans view. Yes the average American can “believe” whatever they want to. Policy deciding is for adults


:hail:
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Nov 7 2020 12:56pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Nov 7 2020 01:36pm)
You are a science denier calling me "anti thinking" as i said, nothing you say has any credibility.
You are quite often wrong but my criticism was you never admit it when you are, and you have yet to prove me wrong.


Being upset is not the same thing as being correct.
Calling me names without justification is a poor replacement for thinking and facts.


"He won't admit hes wrong! fascist! science denier!"
If I am wrong, point out where I am wrong and use reasoning.
I'm not going to randomly admit I am wrong when i'm not.
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Nov 7 2020 12:57pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Nov 7 2020 07:43pm)
None of those are true except private prisons and minimum wage. Trump is the first president to not start a new war. And having a minimum wage at all hurts people. Why do you think teenage unemployment is so high?

Homeless people only exist to a large degree in Democrat cities. And the reason why they exist at all is because a Democratic supreme court made Asylums essentially illegal.



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Nov 7 2020 12:58pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Nov 7 2020 01:44pm)
Never understood slavery advocacy in a first world country.


At will employment isnt slavery.

Quote (vildmeddans @ Nov 7 2020 01:57pm)
i lold


You're entitled to live without the truth, but it'll hurt you.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Nov 7 2020 12:58pm
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Nov 7 2020 01:00pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 8 2020 05:56am)
Being upset is not the same thing as being correct.
Calling me names without justification is a poor replacement for thinking and facts.


"He won't admit hes wrong! fascist! science denier!"
If I am wrong, point out where I am wrong and use reasoning.
I'm not going to randomly admit I am wrong when i'm not.


I cant imagine living with such a lack of awareness.
I have pointed it out many times, so has everyone else..
You just lie dodge and deny.
You seem to think you are a hawking level genius who has never been wrong in the history of you posting here, even hawking admitted being wrong at times.
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Nov 7 2020 01:00pm
Quote (Bazi @ Nov 7 2020 01:20pm)
I imagine myself as superior (from a health standpoint) because I am a board certified internal medicine physician with an additional fellowship and board certifications in critical care ... therefore when I am refuting Trump/hannity memes with education akin to high school graduate then yes I have more objective ground to stand on. My degenerate HS drop out sister in law SHOULD NOT have the same weight as mine in THIS specific topic.

Just as I should have NO WEIGHT in deciding Nuclear energy policy when speaking about this topic with a phd physicist, despite what my “beliefs” are or how many YouTube videos I have watched

This has less to do with “blindly trusting government as arbiters or blah blah”

The accurate argument is having an equally educated person come up with counterviews and have a rational conversation. This is not akin to the average Americans view. Yes the average American can “believe” whatever they want to. Policy deciding is for adults


In a lot of ways I agree you, but we need to understand that this is fundamentally undemocratic.

Most people have no business deciding economic policy or weighing in on discussions re: minimum wage. And yet we give these same people the absolute authority to elect the people who do make those decisions.
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Nov 7 2020 01:01pm
left leaning twitter is poppin off this morning

https://twitter.com/tinymallet/status/1325134283464273922?s=20

Glad I woke up late so people had time to craft all their goofy ass shit.
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Nov 7 2020 01:01pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Nov 8 2020 05:58am)
At will employment isnt slavery.



You're entitled to live without the truth, but it'll hurt you.


Gotta love neo liberals.
"Work below poverty level or starve is a choice" it isn't.
If you had a ubi it would be at will, with out one its exploitation.
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