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Sep 21 2020 02:46pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Sep 21 2020 01:27pm)
And here I thought this was a topic about SCOTUS, not Congress.

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In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter who's running things. There's an underlying pathway that this country is following.

Which party is in power is nothing more than the icing on the cake. The cake itself is still the same. Our system of checks and balances, keeps it that way.



/edit But hell with the Dems. :D


Umm, that's pretty darn important. Are you saying that it doesn't really matter if Trump is in charge or Bernie Sanders? Given how much power Congress has given the Presidency, I'd say that it matters A LOT.
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You're a big follower of the idea that SCOTUS has virtually unlimited power to write law via creative interpretation, until Congress gets off it's ass and does something to write actual law that negates said creative interpretation?

Pretty sure I mentioned that I'm opposed to activist SCOTUS judges. Everyone should be, in theory. While the activism is going your way, it may seem alright. The moment the tide turns against you, you have no recourse. This is part of why you're terrified of a stacked Court.

Activist judges preclude justice, rather than insuring it. Executive are the enforcers. They can creatively enforce in truly terrible ways. Legislative are the writers. They can make terrible laws that are unjust as can be. Preventing activists who write from the bench insures that there's a power that can keep the enforces and writers both in check.

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Umm, that's pretty darn important. Are you saying that it doesn't really matter if Trump is in charge or Bernie Sanders? Given how much power Congress has given the Presidency, I'd say that it matters A LOT.


Depends who's on the Court, and who's in Congress. Bernie's days are limited though. I see far more extreme fish in the pond atm.

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it will also cement the "well at least he got us some justices" sheepish response to "what did trump get done in his 4-8 years anyways" for decades to come.


He will basically go down as the man that destroyed a far left ideological takeover. By securing the Supreme Court (assuming this happens). Calling out + exposing fake media bias, big tech censorship, and the institutions. Demolishing the 1619 Project, and Critical Race Theory/White Privilege indoctrination.

On top of that, he's had other notable achievements. Helping establish peace in the Middle East. Space Force. Entering the DMZ area of North Korea with Kim Jon Un (which don't get me wrong, he didn't establish peace but he showed a possible sign of something in the future). Him calling out China, which he's been stating since 2010. First Step Act. Free AIDs medication for 11 years for several hundred thousand people. Reduced insulin costs by allowing them to be imported. Helping establish greater border security. And much more.

All good things in my opinion. Additionally, more people than ever in my lifetime are heavily involved in politics now -- whether they like Trump or hate him.

Even if he ends up not getting re-elected, or ends up not accomplishing/expanding much more on certain points I mentioned, he will at least have laid out some basework on these things going forward for future leaders.

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Sep 21 2020 04:07pm
I hope they are best candidates and not because they are women for virtue signalling and vote grabbing.
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Sep 21 2020 04:21pm
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I hope they are best candidates and not because they are women for virtue signalling and vote grabbing.

The women being floated are very solid candidates who will uphold our Constitution. Biden did no such thing with regard to his VP pick as she had the state withhold evidence which would have freed an innocent male
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Umm, that's pretty darn important. Are you saying that it doesn't really matter if Trump is in charge or Bernie Sanders? Given how much power Congress has given the Presidency, I'd say that it matters A LOT.




I'm saying... that if you look back through US history, different presidents made minor changes, but in general, the US seems to always be heading in the same direction.
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He will basically go down as the man that destroyed a far left ideological takeover. By securing the Supreme Court (assuming this happens). Calling out + exposing fake media bias, big tech censorship, and the institutions. Demolishing the 1619 Project, and Critical Race Theory/White Privilege indoctrination.

On top of that, he's had other notable achievements. Helping establish peace in the Middle East. Space Force. Entering the DMZ area of North Korea with Kim Jon Un (which don't get me wrong, he didn't establish peace but he showed a possible sign of something in the future). Him calling out China, which he's been stating since 2010. First Step Act. Free AIDs medication for 11 years for several hundred thousand people. Reduced insulin costs by allowing them to be imported. Helping establish greater border security. And much more.

All good things in my opinion. Additionally, more people than ever in my lifetime are heavily involved in politics now -- whether they like Trump or hate him.

Even if he ends up not getting re-elected, or ends up not accomplishing/expanding much more on certain points I mentioned, he will at least have laid out some basework on these things going forward for future leaders.


I have mixed feelings with the disinfectant comment he made on TV.

It seemed like a genuine comment as that platform is the last place for sarcastic comments. But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume it was sarcastic - would providing the media with such an absurd idea during a delicate moment be appropriate? I'm all for exposing bullshit media but is there a better way to do it?
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I have mixed feelings with the disinfectant comment he made on TV.

It seemed like a genuine comment as that platform is the last place for sarcastic comments. But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume it was sarcastic - would providing the media with such an absurd idea during a delicate moment be appropriate? I'm all for exposing bullshit media but is there a better way to do it?


The disinfectant comment was in reference to a researcher that had brought up that bleach and other materials were extremely effective at destroying the virus. The researcher presented the information at a press conference, I've seen it.

It seemed like Trump brought that up as a, "is there something we can do that as similar to this?" Versus directly telling people to inject/digest cleaner solution. Lol.

None the less, he does say some dumb and controversial stuff at times -- I won't deny that. But there's a lot of BS quotes and quotes taken out of context floating around.

I don't even consider him the lesser of two evils, I look at some of the stuff he's done and think he's actually done some pretty good things.

I'm happy with my 2016 vote.

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Sep 21 2020 04:34pm
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I have mixed feelings with the disinfectant comment he made on TV.

It seemed like a genuine comment as that platform is the last place for sarcastic comments. But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume it was sarcastic - would providing the media with such an absurd idea during a delicate moment be appropriate? I'm all for exposing bullshit media but is there a better way to do it?

not really. although they commit even more unforced errors than President Trump they tend to cover each other up or have multiple outlets running the same #fakenews story to try and spread the damage of some of their bizarre actions

this is the same media that unironically said Trump supporters would riot if he lost in 2016 and have spent 4 years calling Biden supporters rioting “peaceful protests by bread seekers”
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