What have you concluded from all your reading

Insulting me several times in one post, and conveniently dodging the one big reason why I actually said meat is bad. Top quality response, sir.

Ive started eating salmon steaks 4 times a week, hear it's the good kind if meat

I almost exclusively eat fish as a meat source. Call me a hypocrite since I still do eat meat but I just cant bring myself to harvest it for some reason, I don't mind going with a group and field dressing but I have no interest in hunting myself. I do however fish at least once a week except January through March.

i eat a lot of tuna and salmon. also halibut..and monkfish, the latter is ugly but delicious!


yeah ive increasingly used fish as the primary animal protein source (also eat a lot of eggs). if you can get it fresh man is it good. simple to make as a healthy too dont need to smother it in sauce or whatever (although a nice curry with fish is quite tasty)

i still eat chicken and red meat just not nearly as often.

that much salmon is particularly great for you if you're a thermometer...

If what you're reading is "meat rots in your system for weeks", then you're reading garbage and you've wasted a lot of time that you could have spent productively.

Humans can digest meat and animals products. Humans have been eating an omnivorous diet for as long as the species has been alive; behavioral analysis being largely how we categorize "carnivore / omnivore / herbivore" in the first place. Our closest hominid relatives (Neanderthals) heavily relied on meat consumption. Our closest primate relatives, Chimpanzees and Bonobos, are both opportunistic omnivores. Humans have a wide variety of teeth, which is characteristic of omnivores. Humans absorb heme iron efficiently (see heme iron rich foods : https://www.webmd.com/diet/iron-rich-foods#1), the main source of which is from animal products, organ meat, and shellfish. The bacteria responsible for the synthesis of B12 reside in the human large intestine, rather than the small intestine. Because the small intestine comes before the large intestine, humans are specifically challenged with obtaining B12 from non-dietary sources. Compare that to a species like the gorilla, which has a far more robust gut that is capable of breaking down large amounts of plant matter. And yet even in the case of gorillas, which are often held up as quintessential vegetarians, significant micro and macro nutrient value is obtained by eating insects (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3967517/), which is an important source of both protein and B12.

We could get into more recent examples, and point out that specific human populations have developed evolutionary adaptions to digest lactose later in life, as that's literally a case of "humans have evolved to consume animal products", but it's beside the point. This isn't a topic that any biologist to my knowledge seriously contests. If this is a topic on which you're supposedly informed, I'd be petrified to learn what you think about anything else.

This post was edited by bogie160 on Aug 5 2020 09:28am

All you have to do is look at human teeth and their gut to conclude their biology is suited to consume meat and plants/nuts/legumes.

You think humans are like cows and are able to let plants ferment in their guts to get nutrients out of food?

You doing actual vegans a disservice. You can absolutely be vegan and be healthy and if moral reasons suit your needs for it, that's great.

But you can't escape the fact humans are evolved to eat both meat and plants. Humans are opportunistic eaters.

You can be jacked and be vegan, it's just going to be harder since animal protein is easier to absorb. You can be vegan and be healthy, just like you can eat meat and be healthy.

It's amazing how warped nutrition science really is. From people thinking meat kills you to people forgetting the laws of thermodynamics in regards to weight gain and everything in between.

Yes salmon can have WAY too much mercury for this level of consumption

This post was edited by theCrossbones on Aug 5 2020 09:43am

"Starvation mode", aka the condition where you magically gain weight when starving always gives me a chuckle. As if severe hunger and millions of famine deaths were a complete mirage.