ya sure, resort to exshillisms again, that'll help your non existing argument. it's funny how so many people haven't learned a thing from the last couple of decades, how feeding you a bare minimum of symbolic 'progress' (alongside a steady diet of propaganda, portraying completely reasonable measures that have proven to work in almost all your peer countries as 'radical' and 'socialist / communist') has not only kept you content, but even vociferously defending the corporate puppets that outright DENY you political representation, lol. textbook battered wife syndrome...

not even barack 'change' obama stood up to the dictate of the donor class, and you seriously expect biden, with his long track record of siding with corporations over his own voters to do that? look up why he has the nickname 'the senator from mbna', or whose side he took regarding the pricing of potential corona virus vaccinations, since apparently you can't accept well known facts without being reminded of concrete examples - or, more likely, hope that i can't name any, and errneously assume that'd invalidate my point, lol.

i look at biden's political record, his campaign, his donors, at the dnc, and it's crystal clear that nothing will happen that noticeably changes the representation discrepancy between the 99% and the people owning the democratic establishment, including biden.
you look at literally nothing (he didn't even make it a part of his campaign just to PANDER to progressives), completely ignore history, and his long record of being a corporate tool, and predict "quite a bit of change" - and then have the audacity to claim i lack substance, lol. what is this? opposite day?!

I'm trying to have a discussion about solutions and you're just herr derr donor class Biden won't stand up blah blah. These are tired talking points with very little substance. Seriously, LET'S TALK SOLUTIONS. Show me something from YOUR country and we can discuss the merits of it. Give me some or kindly shut the fuck up.

this is how his country “defeated the ‘donor class’ way back when” led by his ancestor joseph and his best buddy adolf

Perhaps he's not ready to give me his final solution yet.

If Kamala and Zombie Biden enact entitlement reform, I will stop criticizing them forever.

i'm trying to tell you that biden, harris, and the dnc will maintain america's oligarchy, and you're just 'hurr durr, there will be quite a bit of change under biden, you only have to ignore history, political record, donors, and his whole campaign. let's rather talk hypothetical solutions that biden never once mentioned or supported during his whole career, this is getting uncomfortable.'

all you have are lazy excuses and shilling, wishes without any substance or basis in reality, that's why you constantly TRY TO CHANGE THE CONVERSATION. show me something specific, tell me how biden will remedy the complete lack of political representation of the average citizen, and what exactly gives you the reasonable expectation he would do that. give me something concrete or kindly gtfo.

Oh, that's really easy. A Biden administration will have a DOJ that ensures compliance with the Voting Rights Act. In addition, should the Democrats win the Senate, I'm sure that the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act will pass too.

So what does Germany do that's so special?

how does the voting rights act address the fact that donors dictate policy in washington?! fighting voter suppression is important, and will probably make sure that the lesser of two evils wins, but it does not change the fact that the democratic establishment is completely beholden to corporate interest. so i guess there's simply nothing concrete, huh? explains the clumsy deflections...

What does Germany do that's so special?

learn to read more carefully, it'd help you make your deflection attempts a little less clumsy. not only is this not a discussion about germany, i also have never claimed nor suggested we're 'special' in that regard. in fact, i explicitly mentioned that most (if not all) of your peer nations have better political representation of their average citizens.

guess you have given up on pretending you could make even a semi-reasonable argument regarding your 'quite a bit of change' claim, huh? not unexpected, but still somewhat disappointing.
i admit i was hoping for an amusing spin attempt how the voting rights act would somehow magically address the legalised bribery system you established. bit of a shame that you decided to just drop out one post early...

This post was edited by fender on Aug 12 2020 09:47pm