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Jul 6 2020 07:51am
Quote (inkanddagger @ 6 Jul 2020 10:16)


This is definitely a point. I have the impression that the OP wants to take away from black people the right to form "well organized militias".
Involving some kind of red menace... Lame. ( ;) )

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KKK's Dove of peace

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This is using weapons to instill fear on law abiding citizens it seems like based on the van confrontation.

And I've never been a fan of open carrying long guns or for civilians to own Kevlar armor. That goes for any milia group. I view it as misuse and a disgrace to law abiding 2A gun owners.


They are law abiding. Just black people using the bill of rights.


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Were they shouting white power and harassing law abiding citizens with threats? I must have missed that footage.


Nazi Party vs Skokie says they can march and you can just stay in.

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Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 5 2020 10:27pm)
You know why they failed? They didn't kill enough cops.

This has long been a problem in leftist movements. People don't want to shoot to kill because they have this block in their brain that maybe MLK and Gandhi were right. They may get armed, but they lie to themselves and say "this is just as a deterrent." Inevitably, some dumbfuck with no trigger discipline will end up killing someone on their own side. The body counts will then be completely uneven.

The truth is that, if they truly want to succeed, they need to massacre the police. Period. Holding back only ensures the cops will eventually win. But they can't win if they're all dead. The Bundys know this. That's why they won.

The left needs to abandon nonviolence if they want to accomplish their stated goals. It's a bullshit philosophy. Our government/military doesn't use nonviolence. The police don't use nonviolence. They don't use it because they know it's bullshit. They blast "tolerant left" and "MLK" as loud as they can because they don't want a violent left. They know they'll die.

As a disclaimer, I am not advocating for leftists to massacre the cops. I am simply saying that they will never win until they do. That may be an admission that they will never win, or it may be an admission that victory is many lifetimes away. But I'm not calling for it. Hi FBI.

As another disclaimer, I also think it's the right wing that will eventually dismantle local policing in favor of using the military on the people. They don't give a single fuck about Constitutionality here. So it will eventually not even be necessary for the left to massacre cops. It will then simply be a matter of them filling up the ranks in the military.


The Leninist revolution succeeded because Russian society didn't sufficiently develop a middle-class capable of asserting itself. As nobles declined in military relevance, the monarchy was increasingly at risk.

The French revolution was successful on similar grounds. Louis XIV castrated the nobility and concentrated power in the monarchy. When discontent broke out under his successors, the monarchy sorely lacked the support of an institutionalize military caste.

The United States currently has dominant upper and middle classes that are incredibly invested in the status quo. Violence isn't tenable right now. The right would crush the left because it enjoys enormous institutional strength. The police, national guard, and military are all staffed with a pro-right bias. Gun-owners and militia are overwhelmingly right-wing. The ability of left-wing organizations to match that is probably decades away at this point.
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Jul 6 2020 11:19am
If only the group was marching to the state capitol to demand an end to mandated mask wearing would such a scene be okay.
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Jul 6 2020 11:21am
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If only the group was marching to the state capitol to demand an end to mandated mask wearing would such a scene be okay.


Pretty much this lol


White people march in protest with guns
"THIS IS FINE!"
Black people march in protest with guns
"SURELY THIS WILL IGNITE RACIAL TENSIONS IN A WAY NOT SEEN SINCE CIVIL RIGHTS!!!!!!"
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Jul 6 2020 11:24am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 6 2020 10:21am)
Pretty much this lol


White people march in protest with guns
"THIS IS FINE!"
Black people march in protest with guns
"SURELY THIS WILL IGNITE RACIAL TENSIONS IN A WAY NOT SEEN SINCE CIVIL RIGHTS!!!!!!"


I will say that the racial tone of the march, and the interview the leader gave about it, are disturbing. Moderation is the path forward, not radicalization to meet extremists. That so many people feel that radicalization is necessary is a symptom of the ills of our society.

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Jul 6 2020 11:25am
So now BLM far left scumbag protesters managed to sink even lower, shooting up an 8 yo black girl in Atlanta. Well that's rich

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Jul 6 2020 11:33am
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So now BLM far left scumbag protesters managed to sink even lower, shooting up an 8 yo black girl in Atlanta. Well that's rich


I’m not sure how the right’s attempted pivot on police violence vs minorities to gun violence as a whole really helps any conservative point at all, especially when conservatives have their heads in the sand about gun control and mental health.
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Jul 6 2020 11:39am
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I’m not sure how the right’s attempted pivot on police violence vs minorities to gun violence as a whole really helps any conservative point at all, especially when conservatives have their heads in the sand about gun control and mental health.


"black crime is bad" is just an ignorant dog whistle for "black people are a worse class of humans from birth".

else wise, if we accept all humans are born with relatively the same propensity to violence and crime, and that circumstances that you're born and raised in influence greatly the chance you do/don't commit crimes, then we as a society have failed the black community.

but no, how could that be, we stopped slavery when our great grand parents were born, and stopped whites only water fountains when our parents were born. so how could black people still be failing?

these are the same idiots who'd probably think if you remove toxic sludge from a field that plants will grow just fine in it the next growing season. environmental pollution doesn't work like that. and if you toss seeds in sand and another handful in dirt you'll get more of a harvest from the dirt.

but if these simpletons accept that our society should do more, prepare to gasp, taxes might go up for them at a rate of like 300$/year. oh no......
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 6 2020 12:39pm)
"black crime is bad" is just an ignorant dog whistle for "black people are a worse class of humans from birth".

else wise, if we accept all humans are born with relatively the same propensity to violence and crime, and that circumstances that you're born and raised in influence greatly the chance you do/don't commit crimes, then we as a society have failed the black community.

but no, how could that be, we stopped slavery when our great grand parents were born, and stopped whites only water fountains when our parents were born. so how could black people still be failing?

these are the same idiots who'd probably think if you remove toxic sludge from a field that plants will grow just fine in it the next growing season. environmental pollution doesn't work like that. and if you toss seeds in sand and another handful in dirt you'll get more of a harvest from the dirt.

but if these simpletons accept that our society should do more, prepare to gasp, taxes might go up for them at a rate of like 300$/year. oh no......


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